Thank you for your good advice. However, I won't be taking it. By now, I am so thoroughly sick of the whole thing that I'll just be checking final results -- probably not until Thursday, when some of the feathers have settled. I have resigned myself to the possibility of not knowing who will be President or control Congress until a week from Wednesday, when California (among others, I believe) will finally stop accepting mail-in ballots -- and start litigating results.
That's the one election riot I could get behind -- mobs of enraged voters screaming "Who won, dammit?!" and chasing broadcast pundits down the street with pitchforks and torches. After two nightmare years of wall-to-wall political ads, we deserve to have final results by close of business the day after the election, followed by an absolute embargo on media speculation as to What It All Means.
Fully agree. In the age of AI and Big Data it’s unconscionable for Americans to continue waiting for results beyond election night. Another example of how poorly served we are by our political class. Think they got this figured out after the mess 4 years ago? Not
Basically it appears you wish to abolish mail-in voting, since by its very nature there’s a normal, sometimes days-long, process of doing things like running signature-verification, such that it’s not possible to yield final results the night of the election. I’m sure, though, we’ll hear the usual grousing (and more) from MAGA types that this *must mean* that there’s some sort of “voter fraud” going on. I can guarantee you that that will happen again this year.
All you have to do is require, like Georgia does, that mail-in ballots have to arrive at the polling place before the polls close election day. If you can't get sufficiently organized to mail in your ballot at least a week before election day, tough. If you mail your ballot in time but it's delayed in delivery, sorry, but tough. This business of accepting ballots if they're mailed by election day is complete nonsense. And if you read more carefully, you'd see I said "final results by close of business the day after the election," which means 24 hours after the polls close.
I know there will be screams of fraud, but absent real evidence like 5,000 Democratic ballots that "fell down behind a desk" and weren't discovered for a week, I won't believe it.
The post office is reliable. Most of the time. Except when it's important. This isn't important, but I'm in Atlanta. I filed a missing mail report about a package two months ago. The tracking app says it never got out of the originating post office (Lynchburg, VA 24501). Yet last week the PO said they were still searching for it. Sigh.
Liberal Patriot, you are better than this. You democrat genetics are showing. Re edit this to make it empowering and helpful and get rid of the patronizing tone. It reads like you are talking to a bunch of naughty children. This is how liberal pundits tend to talk and its super annoying.
I'll follow the actual vote count in PA. If things are predictably in one direction after 3 hours, I'll go to sleep assuming that's how the rest of it will go. It would be very difficult for either to win without PA. If it's unclear, I'll still sleep sound, they don't need me to count votes.
From experience I know it's a long way from campaigns to actual policy.
Thank you for your good advice. However, I won't be taking it. By now, I am so thoroughly sick of the whole thing that I'll just be checking final results -- probably not until Thursday, when some of the feathers have settled. I have resigned myself to the possibility of not knowing who will be President or control Congress until a week from Wednesday, when California (among others, I believe) will finally stop accepting mail-in ballots -- and start litigating results.
That's the one election riot I could get behind -- mobs of enraged voters screaming "Who won, dammit?!" and chasing broadcast pundits down the street with pitchforks and torches. After two nightmare years of wall-to-wall political ads, we deserve to have final results by close of business the day after the election, followed by an absolute embargo on media speculation as to What It All Means.
Crabby old man, out.
Fully agree. In the age of AI and Big Data it’s unconscionable for Americans to continue waiting for results beyond election night. Another example of how poorly served we are by our political class. Think they got this figured out after the mess 4 years ago? Not
Basically it appears you wish to abolish mail-in voting, since by its very nature there’s a normal, sometimes days-long, process of doing things like running signature-verification, such that it’s not possible to yield final results the night of the election. I’m sure, though, we’ll hear the usual grousing (and more) from MAGA types that this *must mean* that there’s some sort of “voter fraud” going on. I can guarantee you that that will happen again this year.
All you have to do is require, like Georgia does, that mail-in ballots have to arrive at the polling place before the polls close election day. If you can't get sufficiently organized to mail in your ballot at least a week before election day, tough. If you mail your ballot in time but it's delayed in delivery, sorry, but tough. This business of accepting ballots if they're mailed by election day is complete nonsense. And if you read more carefully, you'd see I said "final results by close of business the day after the election," which means 24 hours after the polls close.
I know there will be screams of fraud, but absent real evidence like 5,000 Democratic ballots that "fell down behind a desk" and weren't discovered for a week, I won't believe it.
I mailed my primary ballot 5 days in advance (10 miles from my house) and it didn't make it in time. That was on me and LESSON LEARNED. No crying.
The post office is reliable. Most of the time. Except when it's important. This isn't important, but I'm in Atlanta. I filed a missing mail report about a package two months ago. The tracking app says it never got out of the originating post office (Lynchburg, VA 24501). Yet last week the PO said they were still searching for it. Sigh.
Thanks for the recommendations in paragraph 3.
thank you all for the good advice. Sure, some of it is just common sense, but some is less obvious, and the reminders are worthwhile.
Liberal Patriot, you are better than this. You democrat genetics are showing. Re edit this to make it empowering and helpful and get rid of the patronizing tone. It reads like you are talking to a bunch of naughty children. This is how liberal pundits tend to talk and its super annoying.
We started our election week west wing binge watch. No TV news. Go Harris!
I'll follow the actual vote count in PA. If things are predictably in one direction after 3 hours, I'll go to sleep assuming that's how the rest of it will go. It would be very difficult for either to win without PA. If it's unclear, I'll still sleep sound, they don't need me to count votes.
From experience I know it's a long way from campaigns to actual policy.