I live in the Twin Cities and I've seen all too many videos of federal agents being way too aggressive in interactions with the public. Many of the protestors engage in provocative tactics, but well-trained local police who live in the community would not have responded as forcefully as many federal agents have. That's why Tom Homan was brought in: he's a competent professional, not a hardline ideologue like Greg Bovino and Kristi Noem are. And it's also true that the media have been completely one-sided in their coverage of the Minnesota operation; if these alleged journalists had been directly on the payroll of left-wing activist groups their coverage would have been the same.
To say it again: the emphasis on these ICE sweeps is NOT the most effective way to achieve large scale deportations. Use most of the funds spent by ICE to target employers who knowingly employ illegal workers and penalize those employers heavily with fines and prison time: presto, within a year millions of unauthorized immigrants who can't find jobs will leave voluntarily, especially if they are given other financial incentives to do so.
Imagine a journalist asking Trump if he is willing to greatly increase the federal efforts to penalize illegal hiring. Many GOP donors want an unlimited supply of cheap, compliant labor, but a huge percentage of blue-collar people would strongly support such an effort. Democrats, of course, would oppose anything that results in their number of future voters decreasing.
So what they needed was crowd control. The National Guard is trained for that but the Dems nixed them in court. Frey also held back the trained local law enforcement you talked about. Why didn't he let them do their job to protect citizens? Because he wasn't smart enough to figure that out? Two people would probably still be alive today had Frey sent the crowd control officers down to the areas to separate the citizens from ICE and it would have had nothing to do with ICE but protecting the citizens he promised to protect . Shame on blinded by ideology Minnesotans for not holding him and Walz accountable. Living in Nebraska and being an outdoors man I have always had respect and admiration for your state and it's people. No more for your citizens in the Twin cities. And now you let true fascists blockade your streets. Which affects who the most? Citizens. How much further can your cities fall before hitting bottom? Not much further to go.
“Many of the protestors engage in provocative tactics, but well-trained local police who live in the community would not have responded as forcefully as many federal agents have.”
So, here’s a thought, abandon your sanctuary city policies. The only reason CBP was there was to protect ICE so they could do their jobs. In non-sanctuary jurisdictions, local law enforcement handles that. And it’s not a problem in the first place because ICE doesn’t have to surge those cities because they already coordinate with ICE.
You are right…crowd/riot control is not what CBP is trained for as that is not their remit. Just as taking care of hundreds of thousands of abandoned children at the border is not their remit. The simple fact is Democrats have absconded on their accountabilities to secure our border and to coordinate with federal agencies on deportations.
Now we have a mess to clean up. Trump has read the room on CBP tactics and is changing tact. Democrats like Nadler, Frey, Walz, Omar, and others don’t want a solution. They want the chaos…their base wants it and it distracts from their rampant corruption. And both parties have huge corporate interests that favor illegal workers…don’t act like that’s purely a Republican dynamic.
I pray Americans aren’t as dumb as Democrats require them to be to be successful. I honestly don’t think we are…2024 proved that. The question is likely about midterm turnout, which historically overwhelmingly advantages the opposition party. Dems may very well screw this one up.
This will work if your goal is to punish employers. It will not work if your goal is to deport people here illegally. The illegals would face a choice: stay here without a job, or go back to their home country where they also don’t have a job. I don’t think many would choose to go back voluntarily.
"I don’t think many would choose to go back voluntarily."
Here is where the rubber would hit the road. Public assistance would have to be denied to illegals other than emergency medical care. If they don't have jobs/income to support themselves, they have to leave voluntarily or by force. Of course, the very partisan news media would go into overdrive on the sob stories of individual people and especially families. But if they receive welfare benefits the message would be loud and clear to billions of poor people worldwide: break into America and you can stay forever, on the public dime if need be.
We may never know how Bovino would have deployed if the locals had done their job and dealt with crowd control. Pretty sure Bovino didn't have the option of noy policing up illegals. And yes, the entire TDS coven was excited about having something to be both anti-Trump and anti-lawful.
As to efficiency, if you're given a lawful order and the locals wuss out you need more bodies to provide security when you venture out of the perimeter to DO YOUR JOB. Otherwise you maybe get shot or run over. Had the local law enforcement professionals done their job the extra federals would not have been necessary. The abandonment of their responsibilities by local "peace loving" officials looks like a deliberate attempt to cause incidents.
The federal government has spent decades doing little virtue plays about illegal immigration. Trump is the first guy to get serious about it and to force the rest of the political class to make and follow decisions. Trump (and the rest of the 70+%) want a resolution with a LOT LESS wink wink, nudge nudge. That is whats going to happen.
Trump is only mildly serious about illegal immigration. He very intentionally has done very little to penalize employers who knowingly hire illegal workers. Many GOP donors want cheap, compliant labor, i.e. the same type of labor that Trump's businesses often used.
Thank God someone actually knows what Trumps intentions are. There are several other folk involved in running the national government. The "Trump is the devil" stuff doesn't play well to anyone who doesn't already think that way.
Penalize employers is the same tired line that gets deployed to combat each and every attempt to control immigration. Fact is that illegals depress wages and suck up resources that you and I pay for and hope we won't need. They make the economy weaker, as in hollow. If your statement were correct how could the democrats have failed to clean out the evil Trump empire when they could?
The ugly fact is that in Texas we have lots of hispanic workers from yard guys to executives (all legal citizens of the US) and while they don't want them imprisoned they DO want them to go home and enter legally if approved. Trump has turned the Green light (Y'all come right and and we'll feed you, medicate you and house you) to a Red light and done it without a Congress that only appears to be good at cashing it's paychecks.
Those of us who follow credible sources of information and who don't blindly support everything Trump says and does know the reality: Trump's greatest success on immigration has been sealing the border and greatly minimizing the number of illegal immigrants from.
Another fact, though, is that during the five years total that Trump has been President very few employers have been penalized for hiring illegal immigrants. As recent events in Minnesota and elsewhere have shown, 95+% of federal resources devoted to immigration issues have NOT involved employers. That is intentional - if Trump wanted it otherwise he would make that happen. He knows that pro-cheap labor GOP donors don't want their supply of low-wage workers who are currently in the U.S. to be reduced.
Good to know that only people who agree with your sources (and you, of course) have a grasp of reality.
Trumps first move was to "close the border" by simply ordering that existing law be applied. A hill too far for the democrat party. That was reality the easy part.
Conflating Trumps first four year term with the progress in the first few months of his second term is silly. The first term was largely a lost effort. Trump acted as if he'd made an acquisition and all the "employees" would toe the line...wrong! He was seen as an enemy and a PITA by both sides of the aisle. He failed to understand that very few of the career politicos of either brand found him and his insidious goals comfy. I honestly think that having some time to sit and watch the machine operate made him a much more formidable. But thats just my take and., like credible sources, everybody has one.
Trump didn’t “botch” immigration. He addressed a problem created and exacerbated by the democrat party. Not just Joe and his minions. A good definition of hubris might be criticizing the cleanup of a mess you made.
As to the Twin Cities, I have a couple suggestions. Avoid carrying 9mm pistols with 30 some odd rounds to your basic peaceful expression of displeasure at the enforcement of law. Also avoid driving your several thousand pound vehicle at anyone who can fight back.
One way to avoid these difficulties would be to suggest to your elected officials follow the oath of office they took. There was no crawfish clause in that oath.
How refreshing, a President who will chnage his tactics when they are not working. What did he say about a softer approach to mass deportations. And partisans don't understand that. Rare is the leader who will admit things need to be done differently and then implements the changes.
Chuck Schumer has the same thing going, anti Trump, that he has had for the last almost 20 years.
Don't you just love the roadblocks in Dem controlled Minneapolis by fascists. Have you seen them stop any ICE vehicles? Wacko progressive making life miserable for fellow progressives. While Frey holds back the law enforcement that could save lives but he rather see a few dead. Yep, the left is pretty pathetic and I feel sorry for the everyday joes who pay the price. They voted for it!
The phenomenon Ruy writes about here is real. And it should convince those of us who are more centrist Democrats that we are unlikely to change the minds of our leftist progressives. Yes, we still should try, but success is unlikely. Therefore, we need to try to broaden the Democratic party rightward if we are to succeed.
I think I will change the emphasis of my own blog in that direction.
That's what Harris tried to do in the 2024 election - broaden the Democratic Party rightward. To the extent that this strategy might have worked, it would have empowered the far left because they'd have more voters in their coalition.
By contrast, registering as independent and voting Republican in 2026 and 2028 will send a message and perhaps allow the moderates to regain control of the Democrats.
You have to admit the activist far left has been very successful at turning out huge crowds. When the crowd is large the drone pulls back to show you just how large. Democrats representing districts that are majority red have had to do some splainin. The activists punch way above their weight class. They seem well organised and cognisant of the idea of pushing the envelope a little with the violence in hopes of a reaction.
In the scheme of things, the Dems can't even match how many attended a lot of Trump's rallies. Dems set their standards way to low. Like using Trump to measure your leaders against.
If it weren't for the MSM and their favorable coverage with favorable video a couple of hundred of protestor isn't squat. What you are pulling into your national protest, when compared to how many citizens live in this country, is probably less than 5% or even 1%. Not impressive at all to non Dem partisans.
Yes, points taken. Please see my post of last week. But to win elections more broadly, a party has to convince the independents that you can govern in a way that is acceptable socially and patriotically.
Until you find a leader like Trump it won't ever happen. Take the obvious road, developers, actually anyone who isn't a politician, are better presidents than politicians and the change can begin just as Trump changed the Repubs.
The ICE protests have “summer of love” written all over them. Except that the martyrs were white and weren’t murdered like Floyd. The Democrats, with their media ecosystem, often win the polls, but ultimately damage their own brand more.
I’ll be curious to see February voter registration changes when the protests have been parsed. The January changes seem to be back steady change towards Republicans, with some notable exceptions like California, Colorado, and Utah.
Edit: I ran the "Summer of Love" by Chat-GPT and it agreed that it was a short-term boost but ultimately hurt the Democratic brand. Of course, Chat-GPT is a people pleaser, even when you phrase your request to be objective.
In the spirit of Democrats become effective at governing, could one of the many TLP writers explain: how an effective Democrat mayor, governor, future president would have handled the situation as faced by President Trump? In addition, perhaps the writer would also outline how an effective Democrat mayor, governor, president would clean up the current mess in MN, and the nation.
The past has been thoroughly analyzed. It’s time to move forward.
An article in today's Free Press suggests Minnesota might not be so bad after all. Homan has linked turning over criminal aliens to reducing ICE's presence. It takes two ICE agents to accept the transfer of a prisoner in detention, or eight ice agents to make an arrest at a house complete with whistling demonstrators and they might even be unsuccessful in finding the guy. I would think many more municipalities will take a look at the alternatives and figure the quiet effective way is much easier for all concerned.
Another thought is that activists by grabbing the headlines on the issue establish themselves as being the pro illegal immigration side of things. Open borders is not a popular place to be. Trump is dialing down the rhetoric while increasing the size of his ICE army and deporting more people. His border Czar Homan is a seasoned professional who worked for Obama and is much more results orientated than many in the Trump administration.
Politically who knows. I love polling, and think Nate Silver and Nate Cohen walk on water. Issues polling is fascinating to me, but I always realize it's much harder to pin down than candidate polling. A week before the midterms it might be easier to predict.
Nationally, that is what happening. Walz the weak, stupid, and feckless wimp and Frey I can't see beyond socialism ,moron are leading there Dem party off a cliff. Maybe those two should wake up and see and understand why the rest of the country isn't having the same horrible consequences as they are.
Exactly! This is a great rundown of how our national impulse toward immoderation on both sides causes escalating violence, wild pendulum swings, and no sustainable action on important policy. I wonder what sensible enforcement of the rules would even look like at this point - whistle brigades and banging down doors are chaos, and I'm looking for much better logistics.
Billie Eilish is only 24 and a celebrity, so it’s tempting to write off what she said as just youthful ignorance. The problem for the left is that she accurately parroted exactly what leftist leaders have been telling her for years.
It shows just how incapable they are at foreseeing even the most obvious consequences of their ideas.
You might want to see a shrink to treat your mental illness, partisan TDS. What you believe is irrelevant. You folks made yourself and your opinions irrelevant Nov 2024. And the best you can do now is a lament of a loser. Why not spend your time on trying to become winners again? Pick leaders and policies that folks like me, Independents, will vote for. We decide who wins elections. Without us, you are toast for a long time.
I think we need broad centrist parties. I'm tired of both extremes running things as if they represent the majority, which they don't. Let's have the middle and ship the extremes into media oblivion. JMO
We had broad centrists parties - two of them. Remember when Bill Clinton ran as a "New Democrat" who said "the era of Big Government is over" and that abortion should be "safe, legal, and rare." Leftists sneered and called it Republican-lite. I didn't understand at the time given the differences on taxation and abortion, but in hindsight the leftists were correct.
What we need is for leftism as an ideological movement to be defeated. I think it's actually in its death throes right now. Nikita Khrushchev could stare down Nixon and say, "we will bury you." Leftists really believed that they were going to create a Utopia of freedom and prosperity. Now I think they're ideological suicide bombers who want to destroy Western civilization. But people around the globe are seeing through the act and there is a global revolt against leftism. OTOH, if the Democrats win in 2028 they'll open the floodgates, nuke the filibuster, legalize 20 million illegal immigrants and create a permanent majority like California.
Consistent with this, the Cygnal poll shows majority support for “Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) enforcing federal immigration laws to remove illegal immigrants from the U.S.”
There is a certain amount of wishful thinking in spinning this as some kind of egregious miscalculation by Trump. He overreached on tactics, smartly drew back and the policy preferences of the majority of Americans are largely unaffected. they dislike the tactics but they favor removing undocumented people from the population.
This tactical retreat seems in line with Trump’s M. O.
It's as if both parties view moderate voters as people their power bases can extract concessions from.
"I'll vote down the ticket for the more authentically moderate candidate, regardless of party affiliation" might be the only way we can shut down the nonsense factory.
You mean a well funded and organized insurrectionist group, working hand in hand with corporate media, has managed to provoke responses that they’re able to use in a propaganda campaign against Trump, on an issue where the public doesn’t even agree with them. Quite a trick they’ve pulled off. But then if they try to impose the unpopular agenda they’re advancing, they’ll lose. While fighting against voter ID. Never mind that the left is deliberately destroying the country against the will of the people. “hahaha, we stuck it to Trump!” is what matters.
"without clarifying in any way how they would actually handle the problem of illegal immigration"
You can't clarify how to handle a problem that (1) you deliberately caused and (2) don't actually think is a problem.
I live in the Twin Cities and I've seen all too many videos of federal agents being way too aggressive in interactions with the public. Many of the protestors engage in provocative tactics, but well-trained local police who live in the community would not have responded as forcefully as many federal agents have. That's why Tom Homan was brought in: he's a competent professional, not a hardline ideologue like Greg Bovino and Kristi Noem are. And it's also true that the media have been completely one-sided in their coverage of the Minnesota operation; if these alleged journalists had been directly on the payroll of left-wing activist groups their coverage would have been the same.
To say it again: the emphasis on these ICE sweeps is NOT the most effective way to achieve large scale deportations. Use most of the funds spent by ICE to target employers who knowingly employ illegal workers and penalize those employers heavily with fines and prison time: presto, within a year millions of unauthorized immigrants who can't find jobs will leave voluntarily, especially if they are given other financial incentives to do so.
Imagine a journalist asking Trump if he is willing to greatly increase the federal efforts to penalize illegal hiring. Many GOP donors want an unlimited supply of cheap, compliant labor, but a huge percentage of blue-collar people would strongly support such an effort. Democrats, of course, would oppose anything that results in their number of future voters decreasing.
So what they needed was crowd control. The National Guard is trained for that but the Dems nixed them in court. Frey also held back the trained local law enforcement you talked about. Why didn't he let them do their job to protect citizens? Because he wasn't smart enough to figure that out? Two people would probably still be alive today had Frey sent the crowd control officers down to the areas to separate the citizens from ICE and it would have had nothing to do with ICE but protecting the citizens he promised to protect . Shame on blinded by ideology Minnesotans for not holding him and Walz accountable. Living in Nebraska and being an outdoors man I have always had respect and admiration for your state and it's people. No more for your citizens in the Twin cities. And now you let true fascists blockade your streets. Which affects who the most? Citizens. How much further can your cities fall before hitting bottom? Not much further to go.
“Many of the protestors engage in provocative tactics, but well-trained local police who live in the community would not have responded as forcefully as many federal agents have.”
So, here’s a thought, abandon your sanctuary city policies. The only reason CBP was there was to protect ICE so they could do their jobs. In non-sanctuary jurisdictions, local law enforcement handles that. And it’s not a problem in the first place because ICE doesn’t have to surge those cities because they already coordinate with ICE.
You are right…crowd/riot control is not what CBP is trained for as that is not their remit. Just as taking care of hundreds of thousands of abandoned children at the border is not their remit. The simple fact is Democrats have absconded on their accountabilities to secure our border and to coordinate with federal agencies on deportations.
Now we have a mess to clean up. Trump has read the room on CBP tactics and is changing tact. Democrats like Nadler, Frey, Walz, Omar, and others don’t want a solution. They want the chaos…their base wants it and it distracts from their rampant corruption. And both parties have huge corporate interests that favor illegal workers…don’t act like that’s purely a Republican dynamic.
I pray Americans aren’t as dumb as Democrats require them to be to be successful. I honestly don’t think we are…2024 proved that. The question is likely about midterm turnout, which historically overwhelmingly advantages the opposition party. Dems may very well screw this one up.
This will work if your goal is to punish employers. It will not work if your goal is to deport people here illegally. The illegals would face a choice: stay here without a job, or go back to their home country where they also don’t have a job. I don’t think many would choose to go back voluntarily.
"I don’t think many would choose to go back voluntarily."
Here is where the rubber would hit the road. Public assistance would have to be denied to illegals other than emergency medical care. If they don't have jobs/income to support themselves, they have to leave voluntarily or by force. Of course, the very partisan news media would go into overdrive on the sob stories of individual people and especially families. But if they receive welfare benefits the message would be loud and clear to billions of poor people worldwide: break into America and you can stay forever, on the public dime if need be.
We may never know how Bovino would have deployed if the locals had done their job and dealt with crowd control. Pretty sure Bovino didn't have the option of noy policing up illegals. And yes, the entire TDS coven was excited about having something to be both anti-Trump and anti-lawful.
As to efficiency, if you're given a lawful order and the locals wuss out you need more bodies to provide security when you venture out of the perimeter to DO YOUR JOB. Otherwise you maybe get shot or run over. Had the local law enforcement professionals done their job the extra federals would not have been necessary. The abandonment of their responsibilities by local "peace loving" officials looks like a deliberate attempt to cause incidents.
The federal government has spent decades doing little virtue plays about illegal immigration. Trump is the first guy to get serious about it and to force the rest of the political class to make and follow decisions. Trump (and the rest of the 70+%) want a resolution with a LOT LESS wink wink, nudge nudge. That is whats going to happen.
Trump is only mildly serious about illegal immigration. He very intentionally has done very little to penalize employers who knowingly hire illegal workers. Many GOP donors want cheap, compliant labor, i.e. the same type of labor that Trump's businesses often used.
Thank God someone actually knows what Trumps intentions are. There are several other folk involved in running the national government. The "Trump is the devil" stuff doesn't play well to anyone who doesn't already think that way.
Penalize employers is the same tired line that gets deployed to combat each and every attempt to control immigration. Fact is that illegals depress wages and suck up resources that you and I pay for and hope we won't need. They make the economy weaker, as in hollow. If your statement were correct how could the democrats have failed to clean out the evil Trump empire when they could?
The ugly fact is that in Texas we have lots of hispanic workers from yard guys to executives (all legal citizens of the US) and while they don't want them imprisoned they DO want them to go home and enter legally if approved. Trump has turned the Green light (Y'all come right and and we'll feed you, medicate you and house you) to a Red light and done it without a Congress that only appears to be good at cashing it's paychecks.
Those of us who follow credible sources of information and who don't blindly support everything Trump says and does know the reality: Trump's greatest success on immigration has been sealing the border and greatly minimizing the number of illegal immigrants from.
Another fact, though, is that during the five years total that Trump has been President very few employers have been penalized for hiring illegal immigrants. As recent events in Minnesota and elsewhere have shown, 95+% of federal resources devoted to immigration issues have NOT involved employers. That is intentional - if Trump wanted it otherwise he would make that happen. He knows that pro-cheap labor GOP donors don't want their supply of low-wage workers who are currently in the U.S. to be reduced.
Good to know that only people who agree with your sources (and you, of course) have a grasp of reality.
Trumps first move was to "close the border" by simply ordering that existing law be applied. A hill too far for the democrat party. That was reality the easy part.
Conflating Trumps first four year term with the progress in the first few months of his second term is silly. The first term was largely a lost effort. Trump acted as if he'd made an acquisition and all the "employees" would toe the line...wrong! He was seen as an enemy and a PITA by both sides of the aisle. He failed to understand that very few of the career politicos of either brand found him and his insidious goals comfy. I honestly think that having some time to sit and watch the machine operate made him a much more formidable. But thats just my take and., like credible sources, everybody has one.
Trump didn’t “botch” immigration. He addressed a problem created and exacerbated by the democrat party. Not just Joe and his minions. A good definition of hubris might be criticizing the cleanup of a mess you made.
As to the Twin Cities, I have a couple suggestions. Avoid carrying 9mm pistols with 30 some odd rounds to your basic peaceful expression of displeasure at the enforcement of law. Also avoid driving your several thousand pound vehicle at anyone who can fight back.
One way to avoid these difficulties would be to suggest to your elected officials follow the oath of office they took. There was no crawfish clause in that oath.
Yeah, I'm sure Elon Musk needs millions of cheap, compliant, ignorant Latinos to assemble Teslas.
How refreshing, a President who will chnage his tactics when they are not working. What did he say about a softer approach to mass deportations. And partisans don't understand that. Rare is the leader who will admit things need to be done differently and then implements the changes.
Chuck Schumer has the same thing going, anti Trump, that he has had for the last almost 20 years.
Don't you just love the roadblocks in Dem controlled Minneapolis by fascists. Have you seen them stop any ICE vehicles? Wacko progressive making life miserable for fellow progressives. While Frey holds back the law enforcement that could save lives but he rather see a few dead. Yep, the left is pretty pathetic and I feel sorry for the everyday joes who pay the price. They voted for it!
The phenomenon Ruy writes about here is real. And it should convince those of us who are more centrist Democrats that we are unlikely to change the minds of our leftist progressives. Yes, we still should try, but success is unlikely. Therefore, we need to try to broaden the Democratic party rightward if we are to succeed.
I think I will change the emphasis of my own blog in that direction.
That's what Harris tried to do in the 2024 election - broaden the Democratic Party rightward. To the extent that this strategy might have worked, it would have empowered the far left because they'd have more voters in their coalition.
By contrast, registering as independent and voting Republican in 2026 and 2028 will send a message and perhaps allow the moderates to regain control of the Democrats.
You have to admit the activist far left has been very successful at turning out huge crowds. When the crowd is large the drone pulls back to show you just how large. Democrats representing districts that are majority red have had to do some splainin. The activists punch way above their weight class. They seem well organised and cognisant of the idea of pushing the envelope a little with the violence in hopes of a reaction.
In the scheme of things, the Dems can't even match how many attended a lot of Trump's rallies. Dems set their standards way to low. Like using Trump to measure your leaders against.
If it weren't for the MSM and their favorable coverage with favorable video a couple of hundred of protestor isn't squat. What you are pulling into your national protest, when compared to how many citizens live in this country, is probably less than 5% or even 1%. Not impressive at all to non Dem partisans.
Yes, points taken. Please see my post of last week. But to win elections more broadly, a party has to convince the independents that you can govern in a way that is acceptable socially and patriotically.
Until you find a leader like Trump it won't ever happen. Take the obvious road, developers, actually anyone who isn't a politician, are better presidents than politicians and the change can begin just as Trump changed the Repubs.
The ICE protests have “summer of love” written all over them. Except that the martyrs were white and weren’t murdered like Floyd. The Democrats, with their media ecosystem, often win the polls, but ultimately damage their own brand more.
I’ll be curious to see February voter registration changes when the protests have been parsed. The January changes seem to be back steady change towards Republicans, with some notable exceptions like California, Colorado, and Utah.
Edit: I ran the "Summer of Love" by Chat-GPT and it agreed that it was a short-term boost but ultimately hurt the Democratic brand. Of course, Chat-GPT is a people pleaser, even when you phrase your request to be objective.
https://chatgpt.com/share/6984943c-d320-8007-b21e-7fedd7594e29
In the spirit of Democrats become effective at governing, could one of the many TLP writers explain: how an effective Democrat mayor, governor, future president would have handled the situation as faced by President Trump? In addition, perhaps the writer would also outline how an effective Democrat mayor, governor, president would clean up the current mess in MN, and the nation.
The past has been thoroughly analyzed. It’s time to move forward.
An article in today's Free Press suggests Minnesota might not be so bad after all. Homan has linked turning over criminal aliens to reducing ICE's presence. It takes two ICE agents to accept the transfer of a prisoner in detention, or eight ice agents to make an arrest at a house complete with whistling demonstrators and they might even be unsuccessful in finding the guy. I would think many more municipalities will take a look at the alternatives and figure the quiet effective way is much easier for all concerned.
Another thought is that activists by grabbing the headlines on the issue establish themselves as being the pro illegal immigration side of things. Open borders is not a popular place to be. Trump is dialing down the rhetoric while increasing the size of his ICE army and deporting more people. His border Czar Homan is a seasoned professional who worked for Obama and is much more results orientated than many in the Trump administration.
Politically who knows. I love polling, and think Nate Silver and Nate Cohen walk on water. Issues polling is fascinating to me, but I always realize it's much harder to pin down than candidate polling. A week before the midterms it might be easier to predict.
Nationally, that is what happening. Walz the weak, stupid, and feckless wimp and Frey I can't see beyond socialism ,moron are leading there Dem party off a cliff. Maybe those two should wake up and see and understand why the rest of the country isn't having the same horrible consequences as they are.
Exactly! This is a great rundown of how our national impulse toward immoderation on both sides causes escalating violence, wild pendulum swings, and no sustainable action on important policy. I wonder what sensible enforcement of the rules would even look like at this point - whistle brigades and banging down doors are chaos, and I'm looking for much better logistics.
"Eilish got a standing ovation at the Grammys." Celebs always get it right.
Billie Eilish is only 24 and a celebrity, so it’s tempting to write off what she said as just youthful ignorance. The problem for the left is that she accurately parroted exactly what leftist leaders have been telling her for years.
It shows just how incapable they are at foreseeing even the most obvious consequences of their ideas.
Did she get it right by selling her mansion on stolen land? Hypocrites supreme. And you approve of that. SMH
You might want to see a doc about that irony deficiency.
You might want to see a shrink to treat your mental illness, partisan TDS. What you believe is irrelevant. You folks made yourself and your opinions irrelevant Nov 2024. And the best you can do now is a lament of a loser. Why not spend your time on trying to become winners again? Pick leaders and policies that folks like me, Independents, will vote for. We decide who wins elections. Without us, you are toast for a long time.
Medic!!!!
There is one thing a mentally ill progressive can be counted on, proving the point of the post they don't agree with.
Nice comeback Potsy. RFLMBO
My big mistake was not putting "lol" after the original comment.
I think we need broad centrist parties. I'm tired of both extremes running things as if they represent the majority, which they don't. Let's have the middle and ship the extremes into media oblivion. JMO
We had broad centrists parties - two of them. Remember when Bill Clinton ran as a "New Democrat" who said "the era of Big Government is over" and that abortion should be "safe, legal, and rare." Leftists sneered and called it Republican-lite. I didn't understand at the time given the differences on taxation and abortion, but in hindsight the leftists were correct.
What we need is for leftism as an ideological movement to be defeated. I think it's actually in its death throes right now. Nikita Khrushchev could stare down Nixon and say, "we will bury you." Leftists really believed that they were going to create a Utopia of freedom and prosperity. Now I think they're ideological suicide bombers who want to destroy Western civilization. But people around the globe are seeing through the act and there is a global revolt against leftism. OTOH, if the Democrats win in 2028 they'll open the floodgates, nuke the filibuster, legalize 20 million illegal immigrants and create a permanent majority like California.
Consistent with this, the Cygnal poll shows majority support for “Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) enforcing federal immigration laws to remove illegal immigrants from the U.S.”
There is a certain amount of wishful thinking in spinning this as some kind of egregious miscalculation by Trump. He overreached on tactics, smartly drew back and the policy preferences of the majority of Americans are largely unaffected. they dislike the tactics but they favor removing undocumented people from the population.
This tactical retreat seems in line with Trump’s M. O.
It's as if both parties view moderate voters as people their power bases can extract concessions from.
"I'll vote down the ticket for the more authentically moderate candidate, regardless of party affiliation" might be the only way we can shut down the nonsense factory.
You mean a well funded and organized insurrectionist group, working hand in hand with corporate media, has managed to provoke responses that they’re able to use in a propaganda campaign against Trump, on an issue where the public doesn’t even agree with them. Quite a trick they’ve pulled off. But then if they try to impose the unpopular agenda they’re advancing, they’ll lose. While fighting against voter ID. Never mind that the left is deliberately destroying the country against the will of the people. “hahaha, we stuck it to Trump!” is what matters.