"...The back door for mass immigration is closing; only an immigration realist left can be successful in the second quarter of the 21st century." Maybe, maybe not. There is plenty that Trump can do - is doing now - to make it likely that a very left-wing Democrat is elected President in 2028 to go along with Congressional majorities for Democrats.
In any case, this is an academic question because Democratic politicians everywhere won't publicly support ANY meaningful enforcement of immigration laws. Every ICE operation everywhere is described as heartless, illegal, betrayal of American values, etc. The Wokester Left controls Democratic primaries almost everywhere, and they will not budge an inch on their pro-open borders agenda.
As someone in the Midwest, I’m open to persuasion, but I’m looking for evidence. When I scan the big-city examples most associated with progressive governance, I don’t see reference models that make me say “yes, that’s where I’d want to live”. Until Democrats can point to a few places where the basics are reliably working ( public order, services, affordability) governance will remain their credibility gap. And I’d be persuadable even if the case weren’t “this will help me”, if there were clear, sustained examples where Black residents in big, blue cities are seeing measurably better outcomes (safer neighborhoods, stronger schools, higher graduation rates, rising incomes, lower family instability) because of how those cities are governed. I don’t see that proof-of-concept either. Promises aren’t the proof. Outputs are the proof. If the system can’t repeatedly deliver stable outcomes, the public assumes the management system is the problem.
Love the Midwest reference. It rings my bell. I live in the intermountain West but was born & raised in the Midwest and spent my first 26 years there. I'm proud of those roots, and often describe the Midwest as the citadel of pragmatism in America. "We are in favor of what works, and against what does not work." All the rest is in tenth place.
When the Midwest elected socialists, they were "sewer socialists," not the Mandamis. Chicago was the first big American city with a sewer system. North Dakota's wheat farmers were getting screwed by the grain mills and forced their state government to build a grain mill in Grand Forks. To this day, the North Dakota Mill is the biggest flour mill in America. It runs at a profit, the profits turned over to the state. It sells the best flour from sea to shining sea. It is made from 100% hard red spring wheat, which is what you want if you are baking bread. It goes for less than half the price of anything else in the grocery store.
Missouri, the "show me state," as in prove it. Harry Truman, who made his bones with the universally respected Truman Commission that whipped the military contractors into shape in World War II. Walter Reuther, head of the United Auto Workers, mocked for predicting that they could make 500 planes a day -- until they did it. Henry Ford, who paid double the prevailing wage and cut the prices of cars so far that everyone could buy a Model T, and who then showed Henry Kaiser how to mass produce ships during World War II.
That, and more, is my Midwest. It is in my lizard brain. Too much of that heritage is gone, but not all of it. What does remain in most of the Midwest is pragmatism. The failure of the Democrats to make shit work has turned Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska, and Ohio into Republican states, with Michigan and Wisconsin trending that way. Even Minnesota is on the bubble. Illinois is a lost cause. Oh well. As my father would say, "You've got to learn to take the bad with the good."
Prove it, Democrats. We Midwesterners are unforgiving bastards toward people who cannot make shit work. No excuses for you, no evasions, no empathy. Don't tell me. Show me. If you can't make it work, then what the hell are you doing there? Get out, or we will throw you out. Your feelings are hurt? Life ain't fair. In my Midwest, we had a disconcerting habit of calling people, things, and ideas by their real names. Don't like it? Too bad. That's how it goes.
p.s.: Speaking of Illinois, 15 years ago I was pulled over in western Montana going 85 in a 70. Being a Midwesterner, when the officer asked me why I thought he'd pulled me over I replied that it was because I was going 15 miles over the limit, and that he'd gotten me fair and square. Then he told me about Montana's law that allowed me to pay a $20 fine by the side of the road, and it would stay off my record. I did it, and when he handed me the warning citation, I said, "The difference between here and Chicago is that you gave me a receipt."
I live in Nebraska and the "resistance" is pretty much just a bunch of old farts. Their idea of governing is chasing elected officials and their families around sports stadiums, screeching and shutting down dialogue at town hall meetings, and last year disrupting a children's Christmas program at the statehouse. How nice for the children, seeing adults acting like lunatics and getting arrested.
Spot on Ruy. Unfortunately, Dems already seem to have settled on an immigration policy. They have turned the US into a giant home base, where any non violent world resident can stay forever, if they can reach US soil. No accurate background check, valid asylum claim or economic self sufficiency required, nor any House and Senate vote.
Dems have simply deemed all interior enforcement of non violent criminal migrants, racist. If possession is 9/10ths of the law. location is 9/10ths of US Immigration law. Once here, chances of removal, even under Trump, are very slim. Migrants and Dems both know that.
Perhaps people outside of Texas, do no understand what transpired at Biden's border. Migrants presented themselves, often with no ID whatsoever. Hundreds of thousands of IDs from around the world, were purposefully dropped on the Mexican side of the border or floated down the Rio Grande. Migrants gave a name and country of origin, on the honor system.
No passport, no ID, no birth certificate, no proof whatsoever of their actual name or country of origin was required. Then they said the word "asylum", were finger printed and handed one of the most generous taxpayer funded Welcome Wagon baskets in the history of the earth. All before anyone checked any backgrounds or fingerprints.
The notion that all migrants standing in front of Home Depot or "grabbed off the streets" are all law abiding is comical. Much of the time, we have no way of knowing if they are or are not, because accurate background checks, outside the US, were never made. We have no way of knowing if even the names and nations of origin were accurate. In much if not most of the 3rd world, records and fingerprinting, barely exist. Now toss in a fake, generic name and possibly the wrong nation of origin, and we are not looking for a needle in a haystack, we are looking for a needle in millions of haystacks, of needles.
That is how a serial killer, accused of 2 dozen South American murders could walk across the border and reside in the Midwest for years, before being found. And his fingerprints were widely distributed due to the nature and number of his crimes. Now imagine a single murder or child rape committed a decade ago in a Latin American village with no electricity, and only paper records. If that criminal walks into the US, claiming a different name and nation of origin, they will likely never be discovered, unless they kill or rape again.
The situation is not remotely tenable, just for crime, before we get to driving records. Migrant drivers now regularly take US life in auto accidents, on a near weekly basis. Add in welfare, healthcare and education costs, along with a housing shortage and the negative effects on US wages.
Dems have been greatly aided by Trump's horrendous deportation optics and lousy messaging. Eventually Reps are likely to realize, they need an Immigration Information Czar, that does nothing but explain the actual Immigration situation and laws, in an easy to understand fashion. When that happens, many Dems will keep screaming at ICE agents, but many Independent voters are going to question the "Let Them All Stay Forever" de facto Dem policy.
I am a recovering Republican who swore off that party after GWB took us into two wars of choice that eventually killed over 10,000 young Americans for no good reason. For the last 22 years I have found myself politically homeless because the Democrats were increasingly too batshit crazy to be a viable alternative.
Unrestricted illegal immigration, the attacks on our First, Second and Fourth Amendment rights, nanny state surveillance and control, and the complete and utter intolerance for dissenting opinions make the so-called Democratic Party a sad, but very dangerous joke. Republicans blather on and on about "liberals," and yet Democrats have become more illiberal year after year after year.
Ruy, I wish you well in your quest to restore sanity to your party. As an independent, I am a gettable vote, but only after the items mentioned above have been corrected.
I was a strong middle of the road Democrat until the mid-teens when they went off the rails. They complain about Trump, and in many ways I can't blame them, but do they ever bother to ask themselves just how such an ass got elected not once but twice? Nope, the Democrats other than those who run this website don't dare ask just how it is that the Democratic Party has managed to offend tens of millions of Americans including millions who have voted for them over the years.
To put Robert Burns in modern English: "Oh what a gift it is / To see ourselves as others see us." Democrats, look in the god damn mirror!
At some point, though, to ever hold power again---and this will be a LONG rehabilitation I think is impossible---Ds will have to not only disavow people like Tim Walz, but actively pursue him legally for the incredibly obscene fraud that has occurred in MN, and which now appears to be the tip of the iceberg of fraud, with new revelations about the corrupt government in Kollyfornia. In short, before anyone will take Ds seriously---other than hard core Democrats---the party must show that it can prosecute its own and eliminate cesspools of graft and stupidity.
Oh, and despite polls showing Rs losing some ground---which I don't believe at all given the actual real evidence of voter registration---take this poll for what it's worth, but just yesterday Democrat approval sank far lower than Rs, to a third-party level 18%.
If there is a third party I see it starting with disaffected Democrats from the center and picking up a number of Republicans from the more traditional Republican party.
Add those numbers up, and also subtract them from the the parties they came from, and it may be a more viable threat than most realize.
The election will be about the economy, bud—always is. And don’t bother comparing this to the Reagan years—we’re in man-made stagflation, not Volcker recession. You don’t bounce back from it the way you do from normal recessions, and tariffs on global supply chains only slow the healing down. (They do the opposite, really)
An unintended consequence of people entering our country illegally is not only their entry broke the law, but also how they may learn how to best maneuver around their new home.
A longtime former Bureau of Motor Vehicles (BMV) employee told lawmakers and media at the State House on Wednesday during a meeting of the Government Oversight Committee about a scam to get a drivers license.
“The scheme is simple: a non-English-speaking resident who wants a driver’s license hires a translator who supplies them with the answers, not just translation assistance. English speaking test takers have a 70% pass rate, non-English speakers have an 100% pass rate,” according to the whistle blower.
Unfortunately, several people have died at the hands of drivers who don’t know what they are doing.
If the Democrat party wants to transition to effective governance, they need a commitment to end such practices and then officials committed to operating within the law. That means, making enemies of everyone who is benefiting from the status quo, as well as building a voter and donor base of supporters committed to effective governance. Who are the turn around leaders in the Democrat party?
I think the "Governance Realism" section highlights a specific trap the Left has fallen into regarding the Trump administration: because the Right currently revels in a specific aesthetic of cruelty, the Left has defined its own project as the total negation of cruelty, which is fatal for governance.
The Left must face the reality that the state is, by definition, a monopoly on violence and that governing requires the "institutionalization of cruelty," whether in policing or border control. The goal shouldn't be the abolition of these functions but the responsible administration of them; when a government is too squeamish to use its capacity for force or control, it leads to the exact "disorganized and ineffectual" governance you describe, creating a downstream sense of chaos that drives voters away.
You know what's cruel? Asking American taxpayers to support millions of immigrants with food, housing, education and medical care -- and denying the same to citizens.
Piracy in the western hemisphere. NATO? The Council of the Americas? The Pan American Union? These were not unpatriotic. The US severed ties for want of what the earth yields. Measley borders do not stop greed.
Perhaps solidarity. Trade uniting countries and sustaining all of the classes with cohesiveness and if nothing else great invitational travel posters. An example, a little bit of redistricting to where bus lines reach across the city and suddenly there is a middle class because working classes, once living in gutters, now have jobs they can reach across town. Disputes between countries were settled by NATO thru the Pan American Union.
A point before WWII, may have been platinum. There magazines and publications on the daily status of the Earth's provisions. However, they are pricey.
There was a time when the western hemisphere was united in trade, travel, mutual communications and ideas for improvement on futures moving forward. Immigration in this country was well monitored and medical problems were taken care of immediately. It is rather a two way street in as much as US passports into foreign countries must meet their medical requirements.
Community instead of continuous racial propaganda might break up the continuous onslaught of one country’s or all countries for the respective control of minerals. Geez! We need western hemisphere references.
I would appreciate it if the Democratic Party went to work right now on immigration, obviously what is going on now is not going very smoothly, and to me it seems mean spirited. We invited all these people in by either leaving the door open or in many cases by giving them visas and flying them in. The least we can do is to work with the Republican government in planning an orderly predictable way for people to return home. Businesses also need time to adjust to mechanisation or recruiting Americans.
I guess I'd call myself strongly anti illegal immigrant and restrictive to only the best we can find, but, and it's a big but... I don't like the anti Hispanic feel to things, even if half the guys working on the border are Hispanic. There needs to be a predictable way for people to leave other than getting corralled by ICE.
Where I live it's hard to tell but there is a fairly large Hispanic population that has a lot in common with Polish Americans. There's no way to tell who is Hispanic, we all look alike speak English with an American accent and often my horrible Spanish language abilities are better than their non existent ones. Just like no one speaks Polish.
There is a lot the Democratic Party could do to legislatively fix our immigration system and we should be doing so now, not hoping we win an election and can reverse Trump's measures sometime in 29. We owe it to ourselves, our Hispanic population, and the folks we let in with a wink and a nod.
"There needs to be a predictable way for people to leave other than getting corralled by ICE." -- Any specific suggestions? Offering a free trip and $1,000 isn't working....
They just today upped the offer to $3,000 and that's per person, a family of four would get $12,000 assuming none were American. Has to happen before the new year though. In the quote from DHS they said they had tens of thousands of participants for the thousand offer.
The Republican side of the house back in 23 or so had a very specific and detailed lengthy plan that started out mild and increased fines to employers over time. I've forgotten all of the details but at the time I read it carefully and it was extremely reasonable and yet would have ended up achieving quite a bit. For illegals it also started out very mild and increased severity over a couple years. It was the best I'd seen. I wish they could resurrect the good parts.
Employers are the ones who will scream and yell the most, also they have the most leverage with politicians. It's certainly a lot better than what was.
Yes, it provides a very easy way to opt out of being responsible, even better is to have a third party do it for you so you are removed from responsibility. Ideally E verify would cross reference to Social Security and the state motor vehicle just like they do to half of current job applicants.
At the meatpacking plant here in Omaha the HR person was here illegally. He didn't submit the required paperwork so the workers couldn't be charged with using someone else's social security number. I'm not making this up.
I know someone whose dad worked union meatpacking in the midwest. Put 3 daughters through college, retired on pension, had a sucky little summer place up north on a lake. That's who they replaced.
"...The back door for mass immigration is closing; only an immigration realist left can be successful in the second quarter of the 21st century." Maybe, maybe not. There is plenty that Trump can do - is doing now - to make it likely that a very left-wing Democrat is elected President in 2028 to go along with Congressional majorities for Democrats.
In any case, this is an academic question because Democratic politicians everywhere won't publicly support ANY meaningful enforcement of immigration laws. Every ICE operation everywhere is described as heartless, illegal, betrayal of American values, etc. The Wokester Left controls Democratic primaries almost everywhere, and they will not budge an inch on their pro-open borders agenda.
True. They're so focused on their hatred of Trump that they can't admit they were wrong on anything they see as supporting him.
They're putting 100% of their eggs in one basket, but he's not going to be on the '28 ballot.
A Republican opponent just has to stay far enough away from the Trump personality but embrace the successful policies.
As someone in the Midwest, I’m open to persuasion, but I’m looking for evidence. When I scan the big-city examples most associated with progressive governance, I don’t see reference models that make me say “yes, that’s where I’d want to live”. Until Democrats can point to a few places where the basics are reliably working ( public order, services, affordability) governance will remain their credibility gap. And I’d be persuadable even if the case weren’t “this will help me”, if there were clear, sustained examples where Black residents in big, blue cities are seeing measurably better outcomes (safer neighborhoods, stronger schools, higher graduation rates, rising incomes, lower family instability) because of how those cities are governed. I don’t see that proof-of-concept either. Promises aren’t the proof. Outputs are the proof. If the system can’t repeatedly deliver stable outcomes, the public assumes the management system is the problem.
Love the Midwest reference. It rings my bell. I live in the intermountain West but was born & raised in the Midwest and spent my first 26 years there. I'm proud of those roots, and often describe the Midwest as the citadel of pragmatism in America. "We are in favor of what works, and against what does not work." All the rest is in tenth place.
When the Midwest elected socialists, they were "sewer socialists," not the Mandamis. Chicago was the first big American city with a sewer system. North Dakota's wheat farmers were getting screwed by the grain mills and forced their state government to build a grain mill in Grand Forks. To this day, the North Dakota Mill is the biggest flour mill in America. It runs at a profit, the profits turned over to the state. It sells the best flour from sea to shining sea. It is made from 100% hard red spring wheat, which is what you want if you are baking bread. It goes for less than half the price of anything else in the grocery store.
Missouri, the "show me state," as in prove it. Harry Truman, who made his bones with the universally respected Truman Commission that whipped the military contractors into shape in World War II. Walter Reuther, head of the United Auto Workers, mocked for predicting that they could make 500 planes a day -- until they did it. Henry Ford, who paid double the prevailing wage and cut the prices of cars so far that everyone could buy a Model T, and who then showed Henry Kaiser how to mass produce ships during World War II.
That, and more, is my Midwest. It is in my lizard brain. Too much of that heritage is gone, but not all of it. What does remain in most of the Midwest is pragmatism. The failure of the Democrats to make shit work has turned Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska, and Ohio into Republican states, with Michigan and Wisconsin trending that way. Even Minnesota is on the bubble. Illinois is a lost cause. Oh well. As my father would say, "You've got to learn to take the bad with the good."
Prove it, Democrats. We Midwesterners are unforgiving bastards toward people who cannot make shit work. No excuses for you, no evasions, no empathy. Don't tell me. Show me. If you can't make it work, then what the hell are you doing there? Get out, or we will throw you out. Your feelings are hurt? Life ain't fair. In my Midwest, we had a disconcerting habit of calling people, things, and ideas by their real names. Don't like it? Too bad. That's how it goes.
p.s.: Speaking of Illinois, 15 years ago I was pulled over in western Montana going 85 in a 70. Being a Midwesterner, when the officer asked me why I thought he'd pulled me over I replied that it was because I was going 15 miles over the limit, and that he'd gotten me fair and square. Then he told me about Montana's law that allowed me to pay a $20 fine by the side of the road, and it would stay off my record. I did it, and when he handed me the warning citation, I said, "The difference between here and Chicago is that you gave me a receipt."
I live in Nebraska and the "resistance" is pretty much just a bunch of old farts. Their idea of governing is chasing elected officials and their families around sports stadiums, screeching and shutting down dialogue at town hall meetings, and last year disrupting a children's Christmas program at the statehouse. How nice for the children, seeing adults acting like lunatics and getting arrested.
Spot on Ruy. Unfortunately, Dems already seem to have settled on an immigration policy. They have turned the US into a giant home base, where any non violent world resident can stay forever, if they can reach US soil. No accurate background check, valid asylum claim or economic self sufficiency required, nor any House and Senate vote.
Dems have simply deemed all interior enforcement of non violent criminal migrants, racist. If possession is 9/10ths of the law. location is 9/10ths of US Immigration law. Once here, chances of removal, even under Trump, are very slim. Migrants and Dems both know that.
Perhaps people outside of Texas, do no understand what transpired at Biden's border. Migrants presented themselves, often with no ID whatsoever. Hundreds of thousands of IDs from around the world, were purposefully dropped on the Mexican side of the border or floated down the Rio Grande. Migrants gave a name and country of origin, on the honor system.
No passport, no ID, no birth certificate, no proof whatsoever of their actual name or country of origin was required. Then they said the word "asylum", were finger printed and handed one of the most generous taxpayer funded Welcome Wagon baskets in the history of the earth. All before anyone checked any backgrounds or fingerprints.
The notion that all migrants standing in front of Home Depot or "grabbed off the streets" are all law abiding is comical. Much of the time, we have no way of knowing if they are or are not, because accurate background checks, outside the US, were never made. We have no way of knowing if even the names and nations of origin were accurate. In much if not most of the 3rd world, records and fingerprinting, barely exist. Now toss in a fake, generic name and possibly the wrong nation of origin, and we are not looking for a needle in a haystack, we are looking for a needle in millions of haystacks, of needles.
That is how a serial killer, accused of 2 dozen South American murders could walk across the border and reside in the Midwest for years, before being found. And his fingerprints were widely distributed due to the nature and number of his crimes. Now imagine a single murder or child rape committed a decade ago in a Latin American village with no electricity, and only paper records. If that criminal walks into the US, claiming a different name and nation of origin, they will likely never be discovered, unless they kill or rape again.
The situation is not remotely tenable, just for crime, before we get to driving records. Migrant drivers now regularly take US life in auto accidents, on a near weekly basis. Add in welfare, healthcare and education costs, along with a housing shortage and the negative effects on US wages.
Dems have been greatly aided by Trump's horrendous deportation optics and lousy messaging. Eventually Reps are likely to realize, they need an Immigration Information Czar, that does nothing but explain the actual Immigration situation and laws, in an easy to understand fashion. When that happens, many Dems will keep screaming at ICE agents, but many Independent voters are going to question the "Let Them All Stay Forever" de facto Dem policy.
I am a recovering Republican who swore off that party after GWB took us into two wars of choice that eventually killed over 10,000 young Americans for no good reason. For the last 22 years I have found myself politically homeless because the Democrats were increasingly too batshit crazy to be a viable alternative.
Unrestricted illegal immigration, the attacks on our First, Second and Fourth Amendment rights, nanny state surveillance and control, and the complete and utter intolerance for dissenting opinions make the so-called Democratic Party a sad, but very dangerous joke. Republicans blather on and on about "liberals," and yet Democrats have become more illiberal year after year after year.
Ruy, I wish you well in your quest to restore sanity to your party. As an independent, I am a gettable vote, but only after the items mentioned above have been corrected.
I was a strong middle of the road Democrat until the mid-teens when they went off the rails. They complain about Trump, and in many ways I can't blame them, but do they ever bother to ask themselves just how such an ass got elected not once but twice? Nope, the Democrats other than those who run this website don't dare ask just how it is that the Democratic Party has managed to offend tens of millions of Americans including millions who have voted for them over the years.
To put Robert Burns in modern English: "Oh what a gift it is / To see ourselves as others see us." Democrats, look in the god damn mirror!
Way too reasonable.
At some point, though, to ever hold power again---and this will be a LONG rehabilitation I think is impossible---Ds will have to not only disavow people like Tim Walz, but actively pursue him legally for the incredibly obscene fraud that has occurred in MN, and which now appears to be the tip of the iceberg of fraud, with new revelations about the corrupt government in Kollyfornia. In short, before anyone will take Ds seriously---other than hard core Democrats---the party must show that it can prosecute its own and eliminate cesspools of graft and stupidity.
Oh, and despite polls showing Rs losing some ground---which I don't believe at all given the actual real evidence of voter registration---take this poll for what it's worth, but just yesterday Democrat approval sank far lower than Rs, to a third-party level 18%.
They're actually making a good third party candidate a realistic option for once.
At least we can credit them for that.
Ross Perot, a bit of an unstable character himself, got 19% and cost GHW Bush the election against Clinton.
I don't think there'll be a third party, but I could imagine the Dems collapsing and being replaced, a la the Republicans and the Whigs in the 1850s.
If there is a third party I see it starting with disaffected Democrats from the center and picking up a number of Republicans from the more traditional Republican party.
Add those numbers up, and also subtract them from the the parties they came from, and it may be a more viable threat than most realize.
I'd love to be wrong, but I don't see it happening. That said, if the Dems collapse, this is where the replacement would come from.
That's approval of congressional Dems. The same survey put the congressional Rs in the low 30s.
Correct, a 12 point R advantage. Parties can recover from 30s, not the 18s.
Not exactly cause for cheering for anyone but a rabid partisan.
Not exactly. As I've argued for months, the next election will be
Rs: "We may be lazy, corrupt, and inept, but at least we don't want to kill you."
Ds: "Hold muh beer."
Elections have often been the lesser of two evils, but I can't recall a time when both major parties were as bad as they are right now.
The election will be about the economy, bud—always is. And don’t bother comparing this to the Reagan years—we’re in man-made stagflation, not Volcker recession. You don’t bounce back from it the way you do from normal recessions, and tariffs on global supply chains only slow the healing down. (They do the opposite, really)
Ruy, as usual you hit the nail on the head.
An unintended consequence of people entering our country illegally is not only their entry broke the law, but also how they may learn how to best maneuver around their new home.
A longtime former Bureau of Motor Vehicles (BMV) employee told lawmakers and media at the State House on Wednesday during a meeting of the Government Oversight Committee about a scam to get a drivers license.
“The scheme is simple: a non-English-speaking resident who wants a driver’s license hires a translator who supplies them with the answers, not just translation assistance. English speaking test takers have a 70% pass rate, non-English speakers have an 100% pass rate,” according to the whistle blower.
Unfortunately, several people have died at the hands of drivers who don’t know what they are doing.
If the Democrat party wants to transition to effective governance, they need a commitment to end such practices and then officials committed to operating within the law. That means, making enemies of everyone who is benefiting from the status quo, as well as building a voter and donor base of supporters committed to effective governance. Who are the turn around leaders in the Democrat party?
I think the "Governance Realism" section highlights a specific trap the Left has fallen into regarding the Trump administration: because the Right currently revels in a specific aesthetic of cruelty, the Left has defined its own project as the total negation of cruelty, which is fatal for governance.
The Left must face the reality that the state is, by definition, a monopoly on violence and that governing requires the "institutionalization of cruelty," whether in policing or border control. The goal shouldn't be the abolition of these functions but the responsible administration of them; when a government is too squeamish to use its capacity for force or control, it leads to the exact "disorganized and ineffectual" governance you describe, creating a downstream sense of chaos that drives voters away.
You know what's cruel? Asking American taxpayers to support millions of immigrants with food, housing, education and medical care -- and denying the same to citizens.
Excellent! The question, of course, is can the Democrats change? I hope so but I still doubt it.
Piracy in the western hemisphere. NATO? The Council of the Americas? The Pan American Union? These were not unpatriotic. The US severed ties for want of what the earth yields. Measley borders do not stop greed.
Is there a point buried in there?
Perhaps solidarity. Trade uniting countries and sustaining all of the classes with cohesiveness and if nothing else great invitational travel posters. An example, a little bit of redistricting to where bus lines reach across the city and suddenly there is a middle class because working classes, once living in gutters, now have jobs they can reach across town. Disputes between countries were settled by NATO thru the Pan American Union.
A point before WWII, may have been platinum. There magazines and publications on the daily status of the Earth's provisions. However, they are pricey.
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Can you explain exactly what you mean?
There was a time when the western hemisphere was united in trade, travel, mutual communications and ideas for improvement on futures moving forward. Immigration in this country was well monitored and medical problems were taken care of immediately. It is rather a two way street in as much as US passports into foreign countries must meet their medical requirements.
Community instead of continuous racial propaganda might break up the continuous onslaught of one country’s or all countries for the respective control of minerals. Geez! We need western hemisphere references.
Jimmie Higgins says, Where do I sign up?
I had to look it up and I like to tell myself I've read things.
I would appreciate it if the Democratic Party went to work right now on immigration, obviously what is going on now is not going very smoothly, and to me it seems mean spirited. We invited all these people in by either leaving the door open or in many cases by giving them visas and flying them in. The least we can do is to work with the Republican government in planning an orderly predictable way for people to return home. Businesses also need time to adjust to mechanisation or recruiting Americans.
I guess I'd call myself strongly anti illegal immigrant and restrictive to only the best we can find, but, and it's a big but... I don't like the anti Hispanic feel to things, even if half the guys working on the border are Hispanic. There needs to be a predictable way for people to leave other than getting corralled by ICE.
Where I live it's hard to tell but there is a fairly large Hispanic population that has a lot in common with Polish Americans. There's no way to tell who is Hispanic, we all look alike speak English with an American accent and often my horrible Spanish language abilities are better than their non existent ones. Just like no one speaks Polish.
There is a lot the Democratic Party could do to legislatively fix our immigration system and we should be doing so now, not hoping we win an election and can reverse Trump's measures sometime in 29. We owe it to ourselves, our Hispanic population, and the folks we let in with a wink and a nod.
"There needs to be a predictable way for people to leave other than getting corralled by ICE." -- Any specific suggestions? Offering a free trip and $1,000 isn't working....
They just today upped the offer to $3,000 and that's per person, a family of four would get $12,000 assuming none were American. Has to happen before the new year though. In the quote from DHS they said they had tens of thousands of participants for the thousand offer.
The Republican side of the house back in 23 or so had a very specific and detailed lengthy plan that started out mild and increased fines to employers over time. I've forgotten all of the details but at the time I read it carefully and it was extremely reasonable and yet would have ended up achieving quite a bit. For illegals it also started out very mild and increased severity over a couple years. It was the best I'd seen. I wish they could resurrect the good parts.
Employers are the ones who will scream and yell the most, also they have the most leverage with politicians. It's certainly a lot better than what was.
Did you know employers aren't allowed to challenge documents that appear valid?
Yes, it provides a very easy way to opt out of being responsible, even better is to have a third party do it for you so you are removed from responsibility. Ideally E verify would cross reference to Social Security and the state motor vehicle just like they do to half of current job applicants.
At the meatpacking plant here in Omaha the HR person was here illegally. He didn't submit the required paperwork so the workers couldn't be charged with using someone else's social security number. I'm not making this up.
I know someone whose dad worked union meatpacking in the midwest. Put 3 daughters through college, retired on pension, had a sucky little summer place up north on a lake. That's who they replaced.