We need a coherent industrial policy. This piece comes as close as any I have seen but still suffers from partisanship. Democrats should support these policies not to get Trump but to help America. And if that means situational cooperation with MAGA so be it. In fact, Democrats should be willing to help MAGA turn back the challenge from the globalists in both parties. It wasn't Trump that destroyed the labor unions and hollowed out the economy, it was Clinton and Bush and their Establishment supporters.
I tend to stop reading when anyone mentions polling and does not look at Baris, Trafalgar, Rasmussen, Atlas, and the other 2-3 pollsters who are ALWAYS RIGHT and are always excluded from RealClearPolitics. Two polls last week from people who did NOT miss the 2024 election by 3-5 points BOTH had Trump up. It's astounding yougov, Monmouth, TIPP and some of these other amateur pollsters are even looked at, let alone cited.
But, since authors here insist on that I have to also insist on the constant, unrelenting REAL polls going on under their noses about voter registration shifts. Last week more D-R shifts, with Rs gaining still more in red WY (out registering both Ds and Is), in NC, and now even in DE (!!) where, although both parties fell, Ds lost 2x as many as Rs. Once again, with a single exception of one observation in PA one time, every single voter registration update shows significant D losses and/or higher R gains. Everywhere.
This is the real polling. No, Trump's tariffs are not unpopular. Prices are falling everywhere. Within six months, Democrats are going to with very, very much they had never played the "egg price" game.
This morning as I'm sure all have noticed, tariffs are down to 30% as of this morning. Quite a reduction from the 145% they were at.
I don't think tariffs are as complicated as are sometimes made out. Similar to immigration it's all a matter of who benefits and who pays the price. As long as the downsides are felt by the working class everything is hunky dory. Problems come up when the number of people desperate becomes too great, and we vote in our economic interest.
Of course now it's not just one industry, but all of them, and services too, and things can't be fixed by a simple tariff on cars say, or aluminum or something, it's everything.
One thing to keep in mind. Anytime someone starts talking economics remember, they are the folks who told us NAFTA was going to raise our living standards, and they said the same about China getting Most Favored Nation Trading Status. With almost no exceptions it makes no difference which party.
When the wind blows from the east here the smell of the stockyards 50 miles away is strong, sometimes I think it might not be cows I smell but that town north of Richmond VA 2,000 miles to our east.
As I watch Schumer stutter about Liberty airport I have to wonder how deeply he debase himself because all the administrations prior to Trump contributed to our unsafe and deteriorating ATC system. Where were chucky and Petey during their watch the last 4 years? What qualifications or abilities did Petey draw in to improve the system he was responsible for. Then we klobichar? talking about trade. She relies on the past to make already outdated and stupid comments about our trade situation. How about the Dems 1/6 actions yesterday as they assaulted ICE agents.
The point is, this article isn’t worth the time to read because it is already moot.
A whole party of Brandons. It is not a good time to be a Dem. Everyday their foolish reaches new heights of idiocy.
This said with a straight face while Trump is openly accepting the personal gift of an airplane from the Qataris, and he and his family are funneling billions of dollars into a memecoin they own by doing things like inviting investors to private dinners with the president.
Trump is way more Brandon than Brandon--the scale of corruption is x10,000 anything that Hunter Biden or his dad did, and Trump and his family aren't even bothering to hide it.
The Dems are out of power and haven't settled on a leader, yes, but if you think corruption like this is a ticket to electoral supremacy, history is not on your side.
That would be your world. But then, you don’t seem able to predict the success or failure of any political [arty at this time.
And like I told the others, you have no clue what is going on with that plane.
biden’s minions gave away $80 billion in his last week to 8 entities made up of friends and family. How many EV charging stations did he put in with his billions? How much of those billions went too, causes it wasn’t meant for. And I believe the weakest argument there is, is using Trump as your standard for measuring politicians. Especially since you seem to have such a low opinion. I bring u; biden just to show how biased and irrelevant your posts are.
Maybe you will get this, in Trumps world, tariffs are more than tariffs. Any attempt at judging him based on our last corrupt governments is ridiculous. It also demonstrates how out of touch with current events you are. But then, that is the world I voted for. Your world got rejected.
As we see everyday, more and more corruption by biden is being exposed. In fact, you have no idea what all biden and his family did because he hid it from his country and played his base and radicals like a fiddle. But as you point out, Trump has been the most transparent President ever. Why anyone in their right mind would complain about that is inconceivable.
"Any attempt at judging him based on our last corrupt governments is ridiculous."
The proposition that it is ridiculous to judge a president's corruption by comparing it to prior instances of state (and particularly presidential) corruption is not so much ridiculous itself (which it is), but completely irrational. What else would be better suited for comparison, praytell?
"And like I told the others, you have no clue what is going on with that plane."
Trump's own words: "They're giving us a free jet. I could give you a billion or 400 million or whatever it is, or I could say thank you very much."
This from the group funding Hamas, btw, and after all that noise about Hunter Biden (a president's son) sitting on the board of Burisma, when this time it's *the president himself* accepting the bribe.
And Biden never did anything approaching the memecoin business in scale. (that one's so bad you can't even directly address it, eh?)
"And I believe the weakest argument there is, is using Trump as your standard for measuring politicians."
He's literally the entire Republican Party's platform. He *is* the standard. Republicans will follow him lock-step no matter what he does, and MAGAWorld is nothing without him--which is just one more reason why, when he inevitably implodes, they will find themselves just as the Dems did post-Obama. (Only the economy will likely be much much much worse, absent a change in tack)
Trump’s world is a completely different world than any run by politicians prior to him. It’s like comparing a Chevy to a Rolls Royce. there is no comparison if the Chevy owner says Chevs will always be the best.
Tell me, what is the same between the biden administration and Trump’s that make them comparable. You don’t even have any idea what Trump’s administration may or may not do in 100 days.
You have your world, I have mine. Yours is based in the past, mine on today.
You have no idea what will happen to the plane if anything. Trump keeps lighting you folks up and you keep burning yourself out before any action is even taken. What part of 83% of voters for Trump wanted substantial or total change don’t you get? What does the mean? Who knows. What we do know, is the old system sucked and was failing us as a country and making dependent weaklings out of the world.
The facts are, your worldview was rejected and Trump’s over overwhelmingly voted in. One can spend their time and energy depressed and wallowing around in the pig pen. Or, they can do what winners do and learn from the past and start preparing for the future. And for those intelligent enough to notice, attacking Trump was not a winning strategy. Well except it did elect Trump.
If your purpose here is to change minds and have the independents and minority identity ex Dems, those who votes led Trump to victory, come to your inside to vote, you’re failing miserably. You are proving to us our vote was the best way to go. I don’t see the Dems being viable for a long time. They lost and they act like losers. Yet all the do now is keep Trump in headlines, make him into a martyr and insure the Repubs will win more seats in 26 and another administration in 2028.
I sure as hell won’t vote for a bunch of losers who don’t have the fortitude or intelligence to do what is needed to become winners.
Alright—you started this thread with a comment about how corrupt the Democrats are. When faced with the fact of Trump’s far greater degree of corruption you responded by saying Trump can’t be held to the standard of corruption because he’s “different”, without specifying why. Then you go on about how the Republicans won in November.
That, my good fellow, is cult hero worship, mindless tribalism, and irrational hypocrisy all rolled into one, and the cult members aren’t who the Democrats need to convince—it’s the sane people who have coherent standards for their politicians. Anyone who’s okay with Trump openly using the presidency to make billions off his memecoin or taking bribes from the Qataris and then goes on rants about how corrupt Chuck Schumer or Pete Buttigieg are isn’t voting for anyone but Trump. Acting as if that’s why Trump won is an exact parallel to Democrats who acted like there weren’t any standards for their party after Obama won in 2012. How have the Dems done since then, eh?
The part you miss is that there is no deal about a plane. And if it comes about, it will be a gift to our country and retired to Trump’s library when he leaves office. He’s already got his own plane. A hell of a lot of a cheaper to maintain than a 747. And the simple point you seem unable to grasp is Trump is nothing like Biden or past presidents. In is first administration and this one he donated his paycheck to worthy causes. So yes. The facts are, your worldview was rejected when Trump is elected. You can write novels about it and it makes no difference. Your weak attempts at slamming others with words like cult prove my point. You live in the past, your point of view, like you, is irrelevant. Save your propaganda for the other dinosaurs. Because the other very salient point you missed is that your fellow binary non thinking friends threw everything they had at Trump for 8 years and it failed.
But I encourage you to continue with your losing strategy. You’ll find the same losing results. Nothing could give me greater hope for the future of our country.
The best outcome of Trump's trade policies (erratic as they are) would be for the U.S. to export more of what we produce (airplanes, LNG, soybeans etc.) to China and the rest of the world.
You lay out some compelling arguments. This reader has not looked at Trump's tariff program from a protectionist standpoint, but as a tool to get other nations to the table and make trade fairer. Most problems appear to be not just the tariffs themselves but the other barriers countries, including the U.S., set up that restrict our being able to access as well as compete with our exports. Europe won't allow certain of our agriculture products because we allow the use of pesticides banned there. Japan won't allow our autos because they don't pass a made up stringent safety test. It's a lot of behind the scenes stuff that needs to be dealt with for there to be purely 'free trade'. One problem that I don't see discussed is labor supply if companies do locate here in the U.S. That supply issue Is probably a large factor in in just opening the southern borders to whoever wants to come in. We don't have enough people who want to work in a factory setting, even at good wages. The elite keep pushing high school students into college prep ideas and young men are taught that the way to get ahead economically is through education. Factory work gives a person a way to contribute to an end but also a path to better themselves economically as well as educationally and 'climb the ladder' so to speak. I know, that's old fashioned.
Damn I dislike crap analysis like this. There is a majority of people that will continue to demand their immediate pleasure over their long term health. They are pessimistic people. Change adverse. Risk averse. The cannot see forest for all the trees. It took decades of mistakes that has gutted the US productive economy and made a mess out of everything except the wealth of the top 10%. It has only been 110 days in working on the fix and we have to read this crap which is the top 10% demanding they get to keep their advantage despite the economic and social carnage it continues to cause the bottom 80%. Elections have consequences. Don't believe any reports that attempt to derail this MAGA agenda.
There is a common misconception that U.S. manufacturing output has declined in absolute terms over the last 40 years. While manufacturing employment has seen a substantial decrease, and manufacturing's share of total GDP has fallen, the actual output of manufactured goods from U.S. factories has increased in inflation-adjusted terms due to significant productivity gains.
Everything you buy at Home Depot could be manufactured elsewhere. Check back in a year or two and you may see they were manufactured in Vietnam, Bangladesh or India. The U.S. manufactured 10.6 million motor vehicles in 2023.
This isn't useful. The measure is realtive to the rise of the global economy. It is a marketshare comparison. And the US has lost a massive amount of markets share of industry and manufacturing.
That industrial rise made us powerful. Rent-seeking, looting and gambling work of the professional laptop class is 100% dependent on the former.
When adjusting for both inflation and population growth real GDP per capita worldwide has increased roughly twofold over the past 40 years. This means that on average, individuals around the world have seen a substantial improvement in their economic prosperity.
We need a coherent industrial policy. This piece comes as close as any I have seen but still suffers from partisanship. Democrats should support these policies not to get Trump but to help America. And if that means situational cooperation with MAGA so be it. In fact, Democrats should be willing to help MAGA turn back the challenge from the globalists in both parties. It wasn't Trump that destroyed the labor unions and hollowed out the economy, it was Clinton and Bush and their Establishment supporters.
I tend to stop reading when anyone mentions polling and does not look at Baris, Trafalgar, Rasmussen, Atlas, and the other 2-3 pollsters who are ALWAYS RIGHT and are always excluded from RealClearPolitics. Two polls last week from people who did NOT miss the 2024 election by 3-5 points BOTH had Trump up. It's astounding yougov, Monmouth, TIPP and some of these other amateur pollsters are even looked at, let alone cited.
But, since authors here insist on that I have to also insist on the constant, unrelenting REAL polls going on under their noses about voter registration shifts. Last week more D-R shifts, with Rs gaining still more in red WY (out registering both Ds and Is), in NC, and now even in DE (!!) where, although both parties fell, Ds lost 2x as many as Rs. Once again, with a single exception of one observation in PA one time, every single voter registration update shows significant D losses and/or higher R gains. Everywhere.
This is the real polling. No, Trump's tariffs are not unpopular. Prices are falling everywhere. Within six months, Democrats are going to with very, very much they had never played the "egg price" game.
Agree
This morning as I'm sure all have noticed, tariffs are down to 30% as of this morning. Quite a reduction from the 145% they were at.
I don't think tariffs are as complicated as are sometimes made out. Similar to immigration it's all a matter of who benefits and who pays the price. As long as the downsides are felt by the working class everything is hunky dory. Problems come up when the number of people desperate becomes too great, and we vote in our economic interest.
Of course now it's not just one industry, but all of them, and services too, and things can't be fixed by a simple tariff on cars say, or aluminum or something, it's everything.
One thing to keep in mind. Anytime someone starts talking economics remember, they are the folks who told us NAFTA was going to raise our living standards, and they said the same about China getting Most Favored Nation Trading Status. With almost no exceptions it makes no difference which party.
When the wind blows from the east here the smell of the stockyards 50 miles away is strong, sometimes I think it might not be cows I smell but that town north of Richmond VA 2,000 miles to our east.
As I watch Schumer stutter about Liberty airport I have to wonder how deeply he debase himself because all the administrations prior to Trump contributed to our unsafe and deteriorating ATC system. Where were chucky and Petey during their watch the last 4 years? What qualifications or abilities did Petey draw in to improve the system he was responsible for. Then we klobichar? talking about trade. She relies on the past to make already outdated and stupid comments about our trade situation. How about the Dems 1/6 actions yesterday as they assaulted ICE agents.
The point is, this article isn’t worth the time to read because it is already moot.
A whole party of Brandons. It is not a good time to be a Dem. Everyday their foolish reaches new heights of idiocy.
This said with a straight face while Trump is openly accepting the personal gift of an airplane from the Qataris, and he and his family are funneling billions of dollars into a memecoin they own by doing things like inviting investors to private dinners with the president.
Trump is way more Brandon than Brandon--the scale of corruption is x10,000 anything that Hunter Biden or his dad did, and Trump and his family aren't even bothering to hide it.
The Dems are out of power and haven't settled on a leader, yes, but if you think corruption like this is a ticket to electoral supremacy, history is not on your side.
That would be your world. But then, you don’t seem able to predict the success or failure of any political [arty at this time.
And like I told the others, you have no clue what is going on with that plane.
biden’s minions gave away $80 billion in his last week to 8 entities made up of friends and family. How many EV charging stations did he put in with his billions? How much of those billions went too, causes it wasn’t meant for. And I believe the weakest argument there is, is using Trump as your standard for measuring politicians. Especially since you seem to have such a low opinion. I bring u; biden just to show how biased and irrelevant your posts are.
Maybe you will get this, in Trumps world, tariffs are more than tariffs. Any attempt at judging him based on our last corrupt governments is ridiculous. It also demonstrates how out of touch with current events you are. But then, that is the world I voted for. Your world got rejected.
As we see everyday, more and more corruption by biden is being exposed. In fact, you have no idea what all biden and his family did because he hid it from his country and played his base and radicals like a fiddle. But as you point out, Trump has been the most transparent President ever. Why anyone in their right mind would complain about that is inconceivable.
"Any attempt at judging him based on our last corrupt governments is ridiculous."
The proposition that it is ridiculous to judge a president's corruption by comparing it to prior instances of state (and particularly presidential) corruption is not so much ridiculous itself (which it is), but completely irrational. What else would be better suited for comparison, praytell?
"And like I told the others, you have no clue what is going on with that plane."
Trump's own words: "They're giving us a free jet. I could give you a billion or 400 million or whatever it is, or I could say thank you very much."
This from the group funding Hamas, btw, and after all that noise about Hunter Biden (a president's son) sitting on the board of Burisma, when this time it's *the president himself* accepting the bribe.
And Biden never did anything approaching the memecoin business in scale. (that one's so bad you can't even directly address it, eh?)
"And I believe the weakest argument there is, is using Trump as your standard for measuring politicians."
He's literally the entire Republican Party's platform. He *is* the standard. Republicans will follow him lock-step no matter what he does, and MAGAWorld is nothing without him--which is just one more reason why, when he inevitably implodes, they will find themselves just as the Dems did post-Obama. (Only the economy will likely be much much much worse, absent a change in tack)
Trump’s world is a completely different world than any run by politicians prior to him. It’s like comparing a Chevy to a Rolls Royce. there is no comparison if the Chevy owner says Chevs will always be the best.
Tell me, what is the same between the biden administration and Trump’s that make them comparable. You don’t even have any idea what Trump’s administration may or may not do in 100 days.
You have your world, I have mine. Yours is based in the past, mine on today.
You have no idea what will happen to the plane if anything. Trump keeps lighting you folks up and you keep burning yourself out before any action is even taken. What part of 83% of voters for Trump wanted substantial or total change don’t you get? What does the mean? Who knows. What we do know, is the old system sucked and was failing us as a country and making dependent weaklings out of the world.
The facts are, your worldview was rejected and Trump’s over overwhelmingly voted in. One can spend their time and energy depressed and wallowing around in the pig pen. Or, they can do what winners do and learn from the past and start preparing for the future. And for those intelligent enough to notice, attacking Trump was not a winning strategy. Well except it did elect Trump.
If your purpose here is to change minds and have the independents and minority identity ex Dems, those who votes led Trump to victory, come to your inside to vote, you’re failing miserably. You are proving to us our vote was the best way to go. I don’t see the Dems being viable for a long time. They lost and they act like losers. Yet all the do now is keep Trump in headlines, make him into a martyr and insure the Repubs will win more seats in 26 and another administration in 2028.
I sure as hell won’t vote for a bunch of losers who don’t have the fortitude or intelligence to do what is needed to become winners.
Alright—you started this thread with a comment about how corrupt the Democrats are. When faced with the fact of Trump’s far greater degree of corruption you responded by saying Trump can’t be held to the standard of corruption because he’s “different”, without specifying why. Then you go on about how the Republicans won in November.
That, my good fellow, is cult hero worship, mindless tribalism, and irrational hypocrisy all rolled into one, and the cult members aren’t who the Democrats need to convince—it’s the sane people who have coherent standards for their politicians. Anyone who’s okay with Trump openly using the presidency to make billions off his memecoin or taking bribes from the Qataris and then goes on rants about how corrupt Chuck Schumer or Pete Buttigieg are isn’t voting for anyone but Trump. Acting as if that’s why Trump won is an exact parallel to Democrats who acted like there weren’t any standards for their party after Obama won in 2012. How have the Dems done since then, eh?
Before pride goeth the fall.
The part you miss is that there is no deal about a plane. And if it comes about, it will be a gift to our country and retired to Trump’s library when he leaves office. He’s already got his own plane. A hell of a lot of a cheaper to maintain than a 747. And the simple point you seem unable to grasp is Trump is nothing like Biden or past presidents. In is first administration and this one he donated his paycheck to worthy causes. So yes. The facts are, your worldview was rejected when Trump is elected. You can write novels about it and it makes no difference. Your weak attempts at slamming others with words like cult prove my point. You live in the past, your point of view, like you, is irrelevant. Save your propaganda for the other dinosaurs. Because the other very salient point you missed is that your fellow binary non thinking friends threw everything they had at Trump for 8 years and it failed.
But I encourage you to continue with your losing strategy. You’ll find the same losing results. Nothing could give me greater hope for the future of our country.
The best outcome of Trump's trade policies (erratic as they are) would be for the U.S. to export more of what we produce (airplanes, LNG, soybeans etc.) to China and the rest of the world.
You lay out some compelling arguments. This reader has not looked at Trump's tariff program from a protectionist standpoint, but as a tool to get other nations to the table and make trade fairer. Most problems appear to be not just the tariffs themselves but the other barriers countries, including the U.S., set up that restrict our being able to access as well as compete with our exports. Europe won't allow certain of our agriculture products because we allow the use of pesticides banned there. Japan won't allow our autos because they don't pass a made up stringent safety test. It's a lot of behind the scenes stuff that needs to be dealt with for there to be purely 'free trade'. One problem that I don't see discussed is labor supply if companies do locate here in the U.S. That supply issue Is probably a large factor in in just opening the southern borders to whoever wants to come in. We don't have enough people who want to work in a factory setting, even at good wages. The elite keep pushing high school students into college prep ideas and young men are taught that the way to get ahead economically is through education. Factory work gives a person a way to contribute to an end but also a path to better themselves economically as well as educationally and 'climb the ladder' so to speak. I know, that's old fashioned.
Damn I dislike crap analysis like this. There is a majority of people that will continue to demand their immediate pleasure over their long term health. They are pessimistic people. Change adverse. Risk averse. The cannot see forest for all the trees. It took decades of mistakes that has gutted the US productive economy and made a mess out of everything except the wealth of the top 10%. It has only been 110 days in working on the fix and we have to read this crap which is the top 10% demanding they get to keep their advantage despite the economic and social carnage it continues to cause the bottom 80%. Elections have consequences. Don't believe any reports that attempt to derail this MAGA agenda.
There is a common misconception that U.S. manufacturing output has declined in absolute terms over the last 40 years. While manufacturing employment has seen a substantial decrease, and manufacturing's share of total GDP has fallen, the actual output of manufactured goods from U.S. factories has increased in inflation-adjusted terms due to significant productivity gains.
Why does every tool I pick up at Home Depot say Made in China? Every electrical appliance, clothes, car parts. Maybe it's just the things I buy.
Everything you buy at Home Depot could be manufactured elsewhere. Check back in a year or two and you may see they were manufactured in Vietnam, Bangladesh or India. The U.S. manufactured 10.6 million motor vehicles in 2023.
This isn't useful. The measure is realtive to the rise of the global economy. It is a marketshare comparison. And the US has lost a massive amount of markets share of industry and manufacturing.
That industrial rise made us powerful. Rent-seeking, looting and gambling work of the professional laptop class is 100% dependent on the former.
The U.S. accounts for 16% of the world's manufacturing with just over 4% of the world's population. It will never go back to 30%, the high water mark.
Why not? How much of the consumer markets served by that 30% is US?
When adjusting for both inflation and population growth real GDP per capita worldwide has increased roughly twofold over the past 40 years. This means that on average, individuals around the world have seen a substantial improvement in their economic prosperity.