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> "For any country to work, citizens have to believe in a shared “thick” culture. When citizens don’t believe in it, then you will have social and political turmoil. "

100%. The Founding Fathers were devout Christians *and* secular deists. But they could both affirm the Declaration of Independence--"that [all men] are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights...". The Founders saw human rights as a supernatural entities that man-made law could never overturn.

By contrast, leftism draws from a more physicalist worldview that rejects supernatural entities like "human rights" or reduces human rights to a man-made legal contract. This goes back to the French philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau. He redefined freedom as submission to the "general will," and then said that those who refused to submit should be "forced to be free." Rousseau gave intellectuals the power to decide what was good, and the authority to impose it on the population whether they liked it not. Leftism is violent and authoritarian in its philosophy, and history has proven that out from the Reign of Terror through the gulags through censorship in Europe.

Moreover, in rejecting the moral principles on which the West was built, it means that leftists must hold that the West itself is evil and corrupt. This means leftists hate the first civilization to abolish slavery, the first civilization to have universal literacy, including for women, and the first civilization in the modern era to have democratic government. So there is no common ground between authoritarians who believe the West is evil and Enlightenment-inspired liberals who believe the West is good.

So we can all become leftists and hope that the Soviet Union 2.0 works out better, or we can reject leftism and continue to create things that are good. There is no common ground here.

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Spent some time going down a Notes rabbit hole and after watching a parade of leftists defending the worst regimes in the world, here is my question:

Is there one dictator that you don't support? One theocracy that you don't defend? One socialist nation that you'd like to see free? One totalitarian regime that you'd grudgingly give kudos to Trump for overturning?

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