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Regarding “ what the Democrats need today is a general approach to politics that is similar to that of the New Deal liberals.”

Say it preacher!

I don’t think most people, particularly those under age 60, realize how much the Democratic party has changed in the last 60 years.

https://frompovertytoprogress.substack.com/p/how-the-democrats-have-changed-since

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Weekend open thread time, and as usual, if this is inappropriate please delete and I’ll never do it again.

I’m going to break down the four main categories of transgenderism. What’s fascinating about it is that they are all wrong, but for very different reasons. I also want to say ahead of time that the second wave feminists and British TERFs are lightyears ahead of conservatives on this issue, and I’m primarily leaning on them. Also I used reality-based pronouns but am happy to use preferred names as names are social constructs.

Category 1: Feminine gay boys

This type emerges early in childhood. These are boys who reject the textbook markers of masculine identity at a young age: toy preference (dolls over trucks), lack rough-and-tumble play preference, and sex of playmate preference (girls over boys). Boys are not accepting of gender nonconformance and tend to isolate and ostracize these boys, so they very quickly identify as girls.

The tragedy is that most of these boys overwhelmingly desist and grow up to be happily feminine gay men. Puberty is not the enemy of gender dysphoria, but the cure. “Oh I’m not a girl, I’m a gay man!” This was the conventional wisdom in the early youth gender clinics like the famous Dutch clinic and Ken Zucker’s clinic in Toronto. Multiple research studies by James Cantor, Baer Karrington and others also back this up.

What about the 20% or so that don’t desist? Shouldn’t they be allowed to transition? Transition before puberty does allow these boys to pass better, but the price is very high. Males have to go through male puberty for their genitalia and sexual functioning to develop. Marci Bowers, the president of WPATH and leading gender surgeon, says that he is unaware of a single case of a boy who had puberty blocked before tanner stage 2 who ever had an orgasm. So these boys will never have a sexually fulfilling relationship.

These individuals do want to pass as closely as possible as women, which means they usually get bottom surgery to turn their penis into a neovagina. That is a form of butchery that I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. It requires creating what is essentially a permanent open wound in the groin and a lifelong process of dilation to keep it from closing. If it does close, it can easily turn septic. And because they have puberty blocked, they cannot use the “turn penis inside out” technique. Their penis has not grown yet. Instead they use part of the colon, which brings bacteria that typically colonize the colon to their neovagina. This surgery has extremely high rates of complications. Jazz Jennings, of the TV show “I am Jazz” is literally the poster child of gender affirming care and he has had four revisions to this surgery. Most trans-identified males with this surgery cannot have penetrative sex because their neovagina lacks depth and is painful. A study in Sweden found that the suicide rate goes up 30x after about a dozen years. I suspect that’s when people accept the reality that another revision isn’t going to help them.

A final problem is that these men are now in competition with straight women to find straight male partners. Is this really better than mental health treatments for gender dysphoria?

Category 2: Adolescent girls

Apologies to all the ladies for mansplaining womanhood! (Ha! This is a safe space, right?) Girls do not punish their peers for gender-nonconforming behavior. So girls who are tomboys can freely move between male and female spaces as pre-adolescents without much shame or censure. At least in most cases. But puberty does a number on pretty much all girls. These girls who could once run and jump and wrestle with the boys as equals find that puberty created an uncrossable wall between them. Boys that they used to athletically dominate now tower over them and can effortlessly outrun them. To add insult to injury, their previously lithe and athletic bodies are now weighed down by subcutaneous fat and breasts designed to feed and nourish babies. They used to be invisible, and could play sports shirtless, but now men older than their fathers are leering at their now-sexualized bodies.

Lesbians are one of the main categories of children getting “gender affirming care [sic]”. Hannah Barnes wrote “Time to Think” about why England closed their only youth gender clinic and she explains that the clinicians there used to make dark jokes that when they were done, there would be no gay kids left. You might think that they were infiltrated by religious conservatives, but no, they were super-woke leftists. You have to appreciate that in postmodern leftism, transgenderism is Gay 2.0. It’s the upgrade.

Somewhat ironically, liberals have created the most widespread and medically harmful form of gay conversion therapy ever invented.

However, not all adolescent girls seeking gender affirming care are lesbians. Many are straight and they all have major comorbidities like autism, bipolar disorder, depression, and so on. They are girls who are on the receiving end of relational aggression and struggle the manage the complex ephemeral dynamics of female hierarchies. So they drop out of real life and into online culture. It doesn’t take long to discover the queer community and they quickly “retcon” their social isolation and loneliness as proof that they weren’t girls after all, but boys.

The most heartbreaking case is girls who were sexually abused. A heterosexual girls goes through puberty, which initially excites her, but then her changing body attracts the attention of a soccer coach, or an uncle, or a stepdad. She’s filled with shame and trauma and develops a sense of horror about her own body. Her changing body wasn’t a sign of impending womanhood, but something that marked her as a victim. As Hannah Barnes points out, although not quite this bluntly, when these girls go to gender clinics the clinicians have a choice. Option A: report the abusers to the police. Option B: put her on puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and chop off her breasts. Clinicians have overwhelmingly chosen option B and victimized these girls a second time.

I’m convinced that the “angel of mercy” nurses archetype is quite common among therapists, and the therapists never get caught or prosecuted.

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