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Larry Schweikart's avatar

I, for one, and very very happy with leadership at the top. Obviously, many other people see it too, as the shift in voter registrations---the only real, true, reliable measure of public sentiment---are not just moving but cascading toward Rs. The numbers who joined the Republican Party/left the Democrat Party since Charlie Kirk's assassination is astounding. So far, in states we've been able to measure, it is now occurring at at clip 3-4 times faster than before. Not just R gains, but, as in deep blue Pima Co., AZ, serious D losses. It seems the public has indeed decided that political violence comes from one side.

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Ethan Stuart's avatar

Larry, my man, you just can't help yourself, can you?

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Ronda Ross's avatar

Anyone looking to DC for moral guidance has been disappointed since Lincoln went to the theatre. They all have moments of brilliance, intertwined with poor decisions. FDR interned the Japanese. LBJ used Kennedy's death to pass legislation that some of the brightest historical Black scholars now believe sent millions of Black families down a path of destruction. Mr. Cox appears to be an exceptional political talent, but any regular visitor to Salt Lake City cannot help but notice the ever growing homelessness and urban blight in a city that once, largely avoided it.

Trump is nearly 80 years old. A metamorphosis is highly unlikely. Not even Christ, the Holy Ghost and Charlie Kirk, together in heaven, are likely to pull off that miracle. Did Trump need to reveal he hates his opponent at Kirk's funeral? Certainly not, but many Americans cherish his lack of a filter. They prefer it to a President that tells billionaire donors behind closed doors much of America is bitter, clinging to their God and guns in a perpetual fit of xenophobia. Or those who refer to 1/2 the US as a basket of deplorables.

Trump is unlikely to turn the temperature down, but then neither did his immediate predecessor. In the midst of a bloody Civil War, Lincoln never spoke about Confederate soldiers, let alone Southerners, with the vitriol Biden directed at MAGA Reps. Biden often did not speak publicly for days, but when he did, it was a safe bet the words "racism and xenophobia" would make an appearance. According to Biden, they were the only explanation any American would decry the purposeful dissolution of the Southern Border, or a naked 16 year old with male intimate areas, standing next to their naked 16 year old daughter, in a school locker room.

The words "uneducated" and "ignorant", once unheard of in US politics, now roll off the tongues of Dems with such regularity, they are no longer shocking. The are heard on the floors of the House and Senate, spat by Dem pundits during TV interviews and utilized on these pages. It is impossible to overlook the disdain and scorn behind the terms, when the word "uninformed" exists. What Dems fail to realize is their perpetual sneering is a large part of why Trump was reelected. In actuality, it is little different than Trump proclaiming his hate for his opponents, just slightly better disguised.

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William Conner's avatar

I read the article kind of fast, heading out this morning, but did we just have a full article of America being in desperate need of moral leadership and not even a nod to God, in a country founded on HIS principles, where our logo honors HIM (In God we Trust) referencing past leaders, most of whom, were devout Christians?

How can that be? I've complained a bit in the past about the lack of at least an acknowledgement of our Creator's divine and integral role in our country, but an article on moral leadership and nothing about where our country, and many of the examples you site, received their moral foundations?

Have we not just witnessed what has occurred with God calling home one of his good and faithful servants (Charlie) after a job well done? Have you not, inadvertently, just underlined the problem?

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Richard's avatar

As your polling data shows, Republicans and Democrats don't actually see political violence the same. Republicans see it coming from the Left and Democrats see it coming from the Right. Add those together and you get the big numbers deploring political violence. It is not actionable, however, since the perceptions are so different. Maybe if people would just start telling the truth about violence even if it comes from their side of the fence. We have just seen an apparently failed narrative attempt to define the Charlie Kirk assassin as being someone further right. That has faded somewhat as more evidence is revealed but millions still believe it. Something like that actually happened in the Shapiro case as the attempted assassin appears to have been motivated by Shapiro's Jewishness. Anti-Semitism exists on both Left and Right but the Free Palestine version is leftist. As for the Hoffmans, they were Democrats but the motivations of the assassin are murky. The Left is crafting a narrative that it was about abortion while the Right is attempting to tie him to Walz and say it was about her defecting from the Democrats on immigration. The assassin's statement to police that Walz wanted him to kill Klobacher is also playing in that too. Walz isn't crazy but the statement indicates that the assassin is. Voices in the head crazy. So it is narrative crafting all the way down. Perhaps there will eventually be clarity. I tend to think abortion on that one as the issue has in the past provoked violence by both sides but can't rule out immigration. The Walz stuff is just crazy and crazy is probably the main motive here.

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