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Lisa's avatar

This both raises really good points and kind of feels like it misses the mark in some ways.

I feel like we need to grapple with the contradiction of simultaneously wanting very low wage workers to keep prices low and the reality that low wage workers do not make enough to pay for their own healthcare, housing, food, utilities, and childcare. This is a key issue and contradiction that we need to fix.

But the prescription for food does not ring true. For context, I live in a rural exurb which until fairly recently had very limited grocery options, and much of my family lives or lived in rural areas, some still extremely rural.

Walmart was a godsend. I don’t love it from a philosophical perspective, but it has a wide variety of very reasonably priced healthy food, it has a big reasonably priced produce section, and it delivers at a very reasonable price, a godsend for elderly and disabled people. It is literally the biggest grocery chain in America for a reason. And there are Walmarts in rural areas with no other full service groceries including areas my family hails from.

I am less familiar with dollar stores, but every one I have seen has frozen and canned fruit and veg, staples like rice, oatmeal, flour and sugar, frozen meat, canned or pouched tuna, peanut butter, eggs, and other basics.

Fresh produce out of season is, to some degree, a luxury item. Everyone needs fruit and veg. It does not have to be from the produce section. Even most farmers don’t have fresh fruit and veg growing all year round. Frozen is typically cheaper and just as nutritious. Canned is a pretty good option. Neither one presents the logistical and budget issues that fresh does, which is perishable, fragile, and typically seasonal - and thus more expensive.

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No one should go hungry in America, but it seems like the fact, 70% of Americans are now overweight or obese, and more than 20% of kids also have weight issues, would seem worth mentioning.

As would the relative new use of Food Stamps, by college students. Nearly every college student in the country qualifies for Food Stamps. They are adults with very small incomes, but prior to Obama, few enrolled in Food Stamps. Ramen noodles and cheese pizza, because pepperoni was an unaffordable luxury, was a right of passage. As was the occasional week, sustained by lunch meat, crackers and peanut butter, when budgets came up short at the end off the semester.

The Obama administration actively sought to enroll as many college kids as possible in SNAP, including middle class kids with meal plans. Many happily enrolled because SNAP cards, while not able to be utilized for booze directly, could be sold for beer money. Toss in another 500K dead people, fraudulently enrolled, and that might be at least, a small portion of the problem.

AI says, in 1970, the US had a little more than 200 million people , and 8 million people and change enrolled in Food Stamps. Today with a population of 335 million, we have 41 million recipients? So while our population rose by a little more than 1/3, but the number of Food Stamp recipients rose 5X ?

All in the place, better at producing affordable food, then anywhere else on the planet. Trump's hyperbole certainly does not help, but laying this entirely at his feet, 10 months into his administration, after Biden's disaster, would be comical, if it were not such a serious subject.

Nor should we ignore the effect of Dem border policies. 20 years ago US immigrants comprised 12% of the US poor. Today it is 25%. That is a massive increase in 2 short decades. If we are producing this much domestic need, importing people who are not economically self sufficient, en mass, would seem an especially bad idea.

The answer as always is providing for the truly needy, while avoiding fraud and the effects of personal choices. Sports gambling, once limited to Vegas and few other venues has exploded nationwide recently, as has pot use. Americans should aid those truly in need, but misplaced priorities by adults, should be their problem.

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