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Cindy's avatar

I knew Obama deported a lot of people… I didn’t realize his rhetoric about that. Totally in opposition to current Dems. I think most people are for ‘controlled legal immigration’. It’s hard to understand why progressives don’t see that the migrant influx under Biden affected the poor working class the most. The migrants strain social services, housing and job availability for these Americans. Those financially better off are not affected in this way

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Not yet mentioned. Obama is very likeable, no matter what you think of his policies.

Obama went to Montana, and made noticeable overtures to hunters, said he'd nominate a hunter for Interior, and he did. Obama didn't win Montana, but people in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, the states that sell the most hunting licenses, noticed.

When Obama was running for senator I watched a vid of him talking to a room full of some sort of farmer org from Southern Illinois. He knew their issues, probably from being a representative in the state. First he framed the issue in neutral language and asked if he had identified the problem. Corn subsidies or some sort of BS. Lots of heads nodding yes. Then he went on to state where he might well differ from them on the best solution. Right up front, first said where they probably disagree. Then offered a solution that was probably a compromise they were willing to work with. It's easy to tell people what they want to hear, more difficult to identify differences.

Obama was also very good off the cuff. Spoke in paragraphs. Used neutral vocabulary. Ran in 08 on giving us universal health care. Which we kinda got. Obama was charismatic, H Clinton, Biden, not so much.

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