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The point made in Mr. Bahareen's penultimate paragraph will be, I think, of such unusual potency that it will be hard to figure out the answer to this question in the short-run.

The nuanced analysis of the party's long-run standing with the public that TLP engages in notwithstanding, in the short-term, this fact remains true: take the 2024 election, tack on a 10- or 15-point Democratic enthusiasm gap, and the party wins in a walk.

And the enthusiasm gap is going to be, IMO, at unprecedented levels, merely by dint of you-know-who. Trump has moved into 'batshit' territory and I don't foresee that changing as he progresses towards lame duck status. He has staged violent invasions of the Democrats' cities with a personal paramilitary group unaccountable to the public and weaponized the DOJ against them beyond anything we even saw in the Nixon era. He is openly destroying NATO and writing demented letters to its leaders that are making even the blindly sycophantic members of his own party in Congress speak up. Diatribes about 'men in women's sports' won't fix the effects of these blunders, and Vance will be tied at the hip to Trump, even if he tries to pivot away from him.

And before Larry comes in with the 'registration advantage' numbers I would note that a record number of people now identify as independents in the country, and of those Democrats have a five-point advantage. (https://news.gallup.com/poll/700499/new-high-identify-political-independents.aspx) Due to thermostatic politics and Trump's insanity, I expect that to hold for awhile.

But this is sort of a trap, as it probably won't be until after Trump and his shadow (which will remain in 2028) leave, and the enthusiasm gap returns to its 'natural equilibrium', so to speak, that we will know where the Democrats truly are. I hope they make good decisions between now and then, and we see more Tallarico's and Peltola's in the swing states, and less Crockett's. And the young, digital native generation waiting in the wings needs to step up and eject the party's old guard. This is not the boomer's world anymore (although we may eventually miss that world more than we like to admit) and boomers shouldn't be making the decisions.

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Sorry. Polls, schmolls. These are the same polls that were off by over 10 in WI, off nationally, off by 9 in OH, not once, but twice, said Harris would win IA (!!!), had Ron DeSantis losing FL by a big margin, and had J.C. Vance in a tossup when he won by over 4. Same polls that showed Beto O'Roarke close in TX. And I'm not just talking about D friendly pollsters. Right now, even the most reliable pollsters in America, Rasmussen and Baris, have gone off the deep end because of Israel and are even manipulating those polls.

Yet in the middle of it all, again and again, these voters who "disapprove" of Trump are positively RUNNING to join the GOP and to leave the Ds. I'm convinced that for whatever reasons---just as they were in 2016 before they corrected---pollsters are really failing to find reality. Meanwhile, I see a half-dozen Democrat insiders issuing quiet warnings about the midterms, that MN ICE resistance is backfiring, that the Rs have $70 more BEFORE Trump stages his fund raising rallies.

It's time to find a new, reliable metric. Polls ain't it.

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